От Skvortsov
К Centurion18
Дата 07.05.2020 12:16:47
Рубрики WWII; Флот;

Кстати, Кофман пишет о 3 часах

На исправление повреждения лотка (кормовой башни) потребовалось более двух часов, а еще спустя 3 часа можно было использовать 9 орудий из 10.
От Pr~Eugen
К Skvortsov (07.05.2020 12:16:47)
Дата 10.05.2020 19:39:50

Re: Кстати, Кофман...

> На исправление повреждения лотка (кормовой башни) потребовалось более двух часов, а еще спустя 3 часа можно было использовать 9 орудий из 10.
Надеюсь перевести вы сможете...
0725B/24 From 1st Cruiser Squadron to Admiralty
Following received from PRINCE OF WALES begins. A. and B. turrets in action Y. turret 2 guns in action. About 400 tons water in ship mainly abaft after armoured bulkhead. Compartment above steering compartment flooded but steering gear in action. Estimated best speed 27 knots.

Так что не три, а где-то час...
От Skvortsov
К Pr~Eugen (10.05.2020 19:39:50)
Дата 11.05.2020 23:54:16

Re: Кстати, Кофман...

>> На исправление повреждения лотка (кормовой башни) потребовалось более двух часов, а еще спустя 3 часа можно было использовать 9 орудий из 10.
>Надеюсь перевести вы сможете...
>0725B/24 From 1st Cruiser Squadron to Admiralty
>Following received from PRINCE OF WALES begins. A. and B. turrets in action Y. turret 2 guns in action. About 400 tons water in ship mainly abaft after armoured bulkhead. Compartment above steering compartment flooded but steering gear in action. Estimated best speed 27 knots.

>Так что не три, а где-то час...


The following defects occurred in "Y" turret:-
Salvo 11 - No. 3 central ammunition hoist was raised with shell but no cordite; No. 25 interlock having failed to prevent this. The interlock was functioning correctly before the engagement. There has been no opportunity to investigate this. It is also reported that the reason no cordite had been rammed was that the indicator in the cordite handling room did not show that the cage had been raised after the previous ramming stroke. This caused the gun to miss salvoes 15 to 20.
Salvo 12 - Front flashdoors of No. 2 gun loading cage failed to open and cage could not be loaded. Flashdoors on transfer tubes were working correctly and investigation showed that adjustment was required on the vertical rod operating the palm levers which open the gun loading cage doors. To make this adjustment, three-quarter inch thread had to be cut on the rod. This defect was put in hand after the engagement had been broken off and was completed by 1300. It would appear that the operating gear had been strained, possibly by the foreign matter in the flashdoor casing making the doors tight. The doors were free when tried in the course of making the repair. This caused the gun to miss salvo 14 onwards.
Salvo 20 - Owing to the motion of the ship, a shell slid out of the port shell room and fouled the revolving shell ring while the latter was locked to the trunk and the turret was training. The hinge tray was severely buckled, putting the revolving shell ring out of action. The tray was removed, but on testing the ring it was found that No. 3 and 4 hinge trays of the starboard shell room had also been buckled and were fouling the ring. The cause of this is not yet known. The trays were removed and as the action had stopped by this time, No. 4 tray was dressed up and replaced. The ring was out of action until 0825.

http://www.hmshood.org.uk/reference/official/adm234/adm234-509guns.htm


От Pr~Eugen
К Skvortsov (11.05.2020 23:54:16)
Дата 12.05.2020 11:25:43

Re: Кстати, Кофман...

> http://www.hmshood.org.uk/reference/official/adm234/adm234-509guns.htm
Значит кто-то где-то врёт:
- или Уэйк-Уокер в радиограмме Адмиралтейству;
- или Лич в донесении.

Возможная версия, что врёт всё же Лич: его чуть под суд не отдали за отказ от продолжения боя...
Но это не более чем версия.
От Skvortsov
К Pr~Eugen (12.05.2020 11:25:43)
Дата 12.05.2020 12:26:26

Местное время совпадало с лондонским? (-)
От Pr~Eugen
К Skvortsov (12.05.2020 12:26:26)
Дата 12.05.2020 12:49:17

Re: Местное время...

Указывается время отправки радиограммы,т.е. местное.
Соответственно по местному времени бой начался в 0552.
От Skvortsov
К Pr~Eugen (12.05.2020 12:49:17)
Дата 12.05.2020 14:05:14

А не время получения адмиралтейством? (-)
От Pr~Eugen
К Skvortsov (12.05.2020 14:05:14)
Дата 12.05.2020 14:08:30

Re: А не...

Нет.
Иначе с учётом разницы во времени между Лондоном и Исландией её бы отправили ещё до начала боя.
От Skvortsov
К Skvortsov (12.05.2020 14:05:14)
Дата 12.05.2020 14:06:51

Re: А не...


The "Prince of Wales" fired 18 main armament salvos. The target was crossed and recrossed and three straddles observed. No hits were seen. True range on opening fire was 25,000 yards. The true range on ceasing fire was 14,500 yards.
The 5.25" opened fire at a range of 18,000 yards but only fired 3 salvos. "Y" Turret's shell ring jammed during the turn away and the turret was out of action until 0825.

http://www.hmshood.org.uk/reference/official/adm116/adm116-4352.htm#P391Leach
От Centurion18
К Skvortsov (07.05.2020 12:16:47)
Дата 07.05.2020 12:57:06

Ок, запамятовал (-)