От	Chestnut
К	Mayh3M
Дата	06.03.2007 13:33:44
Рубрики	Современность; Армия; ВВС;

Re: Погибший журналист...

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/06/wputin06.xml

У нас его смерть связали с покушением в Америке на "друга Литвиненко", ну и со смертью самого Литвиненко. Блин...

Короче, насколько этот текст правильно излагает факты как они известны на момент 12 часов назад?

Are Putin's agents behind shooting?
By Toby Harnden in Washington and Adrian Blomfield, Moscow Correspondent
Last Updated: 2:43am GMT 06/03/2007

Speculation of the involvement of Russian agents intent on silencing opponents to President Vladimir Putin's regime, wherever they may be, has increased with an attempted murder in America and an apparent suicide in Moscow.

On the face of it the two incidents appear to have nothing in common, but Paul Joyal, shot in Adelphi, Maryland, on Saturday, is a friend of Alexander Litvinenko, the former Russian spy poisoned with polonium in London last year.

And in Moscow, Ivan Safronov, 51, was an ex-colonel and journalist for Kommersant who had irritated the Russian FSB security service with his frequent exposes.

He was reported dead yesterday after apparently falling from a fourth floor window of his apartment block on Friday.

The shooting of Mr Joyal, 53, was part of an apparent robbery, but law enforcement sources last night said it could merely have been a set-up. Mr Joyal, who struck up a friendship with Mr Litvinenko during visits to London, had recently told NBC's Dateline programme that the Russian's death was an act of "political retribution".

US friend of Litvinenko is shot at home

Mr Litvinenko, with whom Mr Joyal had struck up a friendship during visits to London, died last November after ingesting polonium-210, a rare radioactive isotope.

Mr Joyal told the programme: "A message has been communicated to anyone who wants to speak out against the Kremlin - 'If you do, no matter who you are, where you are, we will find you and we will silence you - in the most horrible way possible'."

Two black males were reported to have been seen fleeing the scene after Mr Joyal was shot in his driveway. Police sources said his wallet and briefcase were stolen and that his car, a Chrysler 300, was of a make commonly targeted by criminals.

Mr Kalugin, who was convicted in absentia by a Russian court five years ago of spying for the West, was telephoned by Mr Joyal's wife, Elizabeth, who told him: "Oleg, Paul is shot - I want to warn you."

Although Mr Kalugin said he did not believe there was an "international" element to the attempted murder, during the Cold War assassinations were sometimes made to look like ordinary crimes to cover the tracks of the agencies involved. On occasions, local criminals were hired.

A law enforcement source said that although the incident appeared to be a robbery, one witness heard one of the assailants say: "Just shoot him."

The source conceded that it was possible that it was an assassination designed to look like a robbery. "If I was going to do something like this then that's certainly what I would do."

Any connection between the slaying of a former government official in Washington and the Russian government or intelligence services would spark a crisis in US-Russian relations. The FBI was immediately notified of the crime because of Mr Joyal's former Senate position.

Mr Joyal has been fiercely critical of Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, for reversing democratic reforms and was urging that Senate hearings be held on the Litvinenko murder.

Kremlin critic dies in mystery fall

A journalist who had criticised the Kremlin and frequently irritated Russia's powerful intelligence services has died after falling from a fourth floor window in his apartment block.

Friends and colleagues demanded an investigation yesterday into the death of Ivan Safronov, the military affairs columnist at the Kommersant newspaper.

Russian investigators said they believed that Mr Safronov, 51, had committed suicide - an interpretation that was challenged by colleagues.

Editors at Kommersant, widely regarded as the country's most authoritative newspaper, said the manner in which Mr Safronov died pointed to foul play.

The reporter had been to a clinic, where he was being treated for an ulcer, on Friday afternoon and then stopped on the way back to buy a bag of mandarin oranges according to witnesses.

Although he lived on the second floor, the former army colonel fell from the fourth and landed on the portico above the main entrance.

"I am sure it was murder," said Ilya Bulavinov, Kommersant's deputy chief editor. "People don't commit suicide in this manner."

Two female students had heard Mr Safronov's body land and reported that he was still alive. They rang emergency services and were told to ring back in 30 minutes if the journalist was still moving. By that time he was dead.

"Бій відлунав. Жовто-сині знамена затріпотіли на станції знов"

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От	А.Никольский
К	Chestnut (06.03.2007 13:33:44)
Дата	06.03.2007 15:28:54

тут надысь одного амера подстрелили, знавшего Литвиненко

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и, несмотря на то, что свидетели видали, как он поспорил с двумя неграми на парковкке, после чего те в него пальнули и ушли - что же Вы думаете написали большие авторитетные газеты - конечно, это месть кровавой гебни
С уважением, А.Никольский

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От	Chestnut
К	А.Никольский (06.03.2007 15:28:54)
Дата	06.03.2007 15:40:28

Re: тут надысь...

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>и, несмотря на то, что свидетели видали, как он поспорил с двумя неграми на парковкке, после чего те в него пальнули и ушли

Вроде бы, по этой статье -- напали на него у его собственного дома, ранили и ограбили

"Бій відлунав. Жовто-сині знамена затріпотіли на станції знов"

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От	tsa
К	Chestnut (06.03.2007 15:40:28)
Дата	06.03.2007 16:52:56

Вроде как куриные фрукты ему отстрелили. (-)

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От	Ktulu
К	Chestnut (06.03.2007 13:33:44)
Дата	06.03.2007 14:50:25

Re: Погибший журналист...

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>And in Moscow, Ivan Safronov, 51, was an ex-colonel and journalist for Kommersant who had irritated the Russian FSB security service with his frequent exposes.

>A journalist who had criticised the Kremlin and frequently irritated Russia's powerful intelligence services has died after falling from a fourth floor window in his apartment block.

Выделенное жирным шрифтом - бездоказательные спекуляции.

>Editors at Kommersant, widely regarded as the country's most authoritative newspaper, said the manner in which Mr Safronov died pointed to foul play.

А вот это - просто неправда.

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Алексей

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От	А.Никольский
К	Ktulu (06.03.2007 14:50:25)
Дата	06.03.2007 15:53:28

Re: Погибший журналист...

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>>A journalist who had criticised the Kremlin and frequently irritated Russia's powerful intelligence services has died after falling from a fourth floor window in his apartment block.
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>Выделенное жирным шрифтом - бездоказательные спекуляции.
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ну, если считать, что дела возбуждаются после раздражения - то все правильно написано. Другое дело, что цена всем этим делам была невысокая и Иван Иванович их нисколько не боялся
С уважением, А.Никольский

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