От А.Никольский
К Геныч
Дата 09.07.2005 22:06:08
Рубрики Локальные конфликты; Евреи и Израиль; Политек;

интересная история

вроде как в сообщении АР действительно говориться, что предупредили раньше взрывов. Поищу само сообщение
С уважением, А.Никольский
От Геныч
К А.Никольский (09.07.2005 22:06:08)
Дата 10.07.2005 12:19:54

Хронология

Здравiя желаю!

>вроде как в сообщении АР действительно говориться, что предупредили раньше взрывов. Поищу само сообщение

Хотел было восстановить хронологию событий, но столкнулся с таким вопросом: какая разница во времени между GMT (по Гринвичу) и ET (какое это время я вообще не знаю)? А так картина следующая:

Israeli confusion:
At 6:33 a.m. ET, AP ran an alert saying "Senior Israeli official says Scotland Yard told Israel minutes before explosions it had received warnings of possible terror attacks."
At 7:10 a.m., AP ran a story saying Israeli Finance Minister Netanyahu changed his plans to attend an economic conference in downtown London due to the warning.
At 7:37 a.m., AP quoted Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom as denying that Israel was warned about possible terror attacks just before the explosions. The Israeli paper Haaretz quoted him as adding that the warning came after the first blast.

Хронология событий в Лондоне:

8.49am GMT: An incident on the train line between Liverpool Street and Aldgate is reported to British Transport Police.
9.15am: Media reports emergency services called to London's Liverpool Street station after an explosion.
9.24am: Police say the incident was possibly caused by a collision between two trains, a power cut or a power cable exploding. Police report "walking wounded".
9.33am: Passengers told that all underground train services are being suspended because of a power fault across the network.
9.33am: Reports of another incident at Edgware Road station.
9.40am: Police say power surge incidents have occurred on Aldgate, Edgware Road, King's Cross, Old Street and Russell Square stations.
10.02am: Scotland Yard says it is dealing with a "major incident".
10.09am: Witness Christina Lawrence, who was on a train leaving King's Cross, tells BBC: "There was a loud bang in the tunnel and the train just stopped and all of a sudden it was filled with black, gassy smoke and we couldn't breathe."
10.14am: A witness says that a bus has been ripped apart in an explosion in central London.
10.21am: Scotland Yard reports "multiple explosions".
10.23am: Police confirm an explosion on a bus in Tavistock Place.
10.25am: The BBC's Andrew Marr, with Prime Minister Tony Blair in Scotland, says the PM is "still unsure" whether the explosions are a terrorist attack.
....
10.53am: Home Secretary Charles Clarke makes a statement outside Downing Street about "dreadful incidents" causing "terrible injuries". He says Mr Blair has been informed and advises the public not to make unnecessary journeys.
....
11.18am: London's Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair tells the BBC he knows of "about six explosions", one on a bus and the others at train stations.
11.26am: The president of the European Parliament, Josep Borrell, blames terrorism for a "co-ordinated series of attacks".

Между первым инцидентом и осознанием, что это был именно взрыв прошло около часа. Лишь через несколько часов стали вообще говорить о терактах (первый взрыв вообще списывали на какой-то трансформатор, кабель, замыкание и т.п.). Таким образом, оповестить Нетаньяху о теракте перед выездом за несколько минут хоть до, хоть после первого взрыва никак не получается.

Pro aris atque focis certare.
От Robert
К Геныч (10.07.2005 12:19:54)
Дата 10.07.2005 20:09:12

Ре: Хронология

>Хотел было восстановить хронологию событий

>Хронология событий в Лондоне:

>8.49am GMT: An incident on the train line between Liverpool Street and Aldgate is reported to British Transport Police.

>Между первым инцидентом и осознанием, что это был именно взрыв прошло около часа.

Вот ссылка на форум "Русского Лондона", там видно как лондонские русские сидевшие в это время на работе в Интернете узнавали что произошло в иx городе из разныx источников (Интернет, лондонское радио, посетители оффисов и т.д.):

http://www.russianlondon.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=10499
От Stalker
К Геныч (10.07.2005 12:19:54)
Дата 10.07.2005 12:27:14

Re: Хронология

Здравствуйте
>Здравiя желаю!

>>вроде как в сообщении АР действительно говориться, что предупредили раньше взрывов. Поищу само сообщение
>
>Хотел было восстановить хронологию событий, но столкнулся с таким вопросом: какая разница во времени между GMT (по Гринвичу) и ET (какое это время я вообще не знаю)?


судя по всему ET European Time (среднеевропейское время). Разница с Гринвичем один час.То есть телодвижения Биби начались за час до взрывов?

С уважением
От Геныч
К Stalker (10.07.2005 12:27:14)
Дата 10.07.2005 12:45:09

Тёмная какая-то история...

Здравiя желаю!

Вот само сообщение AP:

Netanyahu Changed Plans Due to Warning

By AMY TEIBEL, Associated Press Writer
Thu Jul 7, 7:14 AM ET

JERUSALEM - British police told the Israeli Embassy in London minutes before Thursday's explosions that they had received warnings of possible terror attacks in the city, a senior Israeli official said.


Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had planned to attend an economic conference in a hotel over the subway stop where one of the blasts occurred, and the warning prompted him to stay in his hotel room instead, government officials said.

Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom said he wasn't aware of any Israeli casualties.

Just before the blasts, Scotland Yard called the security officer at the Israeli Embassy to say they had received warnings of possible attacks, the official said. He did not say whether British police made any link to the economic conference.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the nature of his position.

The Israeli Embassy was in a state of emergency after the explosions in London, with no one allowed to enter or leave, said the Israeli ambassador to London, Zvi Hefet.

All phone lines to the embassy were down, said Danny Biran, an Israeli Foreign Ministry official.

The ministry set up a situation room to deal with hundreds of phone calls from concerned relatives. Thousands of Israelis are living in London or visiting the city at this time, Biran said.

Amir Gilad, a Netanyahu aide, told
Israel Radio that Netanyahu's entourage was receiving updates all morning from British security officials, and "we have also asked to change our plans."

Netanyahu had been scheduled to stay in London until Sunday, but that could change, Gilad said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050707/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_britain_explosions_1


Pro aris atque focis certare.
От Гриша
К А.Никольский (09.07.2005 22:06:08)
Дата 09.07.2005 22:15:54

Говорили. Потом поправились. (-)