От	Dargot
К	Гегемон
Дата	13.10.2014 20:30:14
Рубрики	Прочее; Современность; Танки; Армия;

Да, горячие подробности из FM...

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Приветствую!

FM23-25, ч. 6-4:

Single Firing. A single soldier with one light antiarmor weapon may engage an armored vehicle, but this is not the preferred method of engagement. Several light antiarmor weapons are required to kill an armored vehicle. A single firer firing one round must hit a vital part of the target to damage it at all (Figure 6-4).

(1) Range not known. When he does not know the actual range, a single firer should engage only targets within 200 meters. The probability that he will hit a target beyond 200 meters with a single round is small.
(2) Range known. When he knows the actual range, a single firer can engage targets out to 225 meters with the LAW or 300 meters with the AT4. He should do this only when he has a flank or rear shot, or when he has no other engagement option.

С уважением, Dargot.

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От	Гегемон
К	Dargot (13.10.2014 20:30:14)
Дата	14.10.2014 00:17:14

И что же мы видим?

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Скажу как гуманитарий
>Приветствую!

>FM23-25, ч. 6-4:
>Single Firing. A single soldier with one light antiarmor weapon may engage an armored vehicle, but this is not the preferred method of engagement. Several light antiarmor weapons are required to kill an armored vehicle. A single firer firing one round must hit a vital part of the target to damage it at all (Figure 6-4).
То же самое относится к РПГ-7: вероятность поражения танка одиночным выстрелом оценивается как 0,3.
А еще мануал рекомендует залповый огонь.
7-10. Two or more firers, equipped with two or more shoulder-launched munitions prepared for firing,
engage a single target. Before firing, the first firer informs the others of the estimated speed and distance to
the target.
7-11. Two or more firers can engage a single target when the range is known. These firers engage the
target at the same time on a prearranged signal such as a command, whistle, booby trap, mine, or target
reference point (TRP). This can be the most effective means of engagement as it places the most possible
rounds on one target at one time, increasing the possibility of a kill.
С многоразовым РПГ такой режим стрельбы просто недоступен.

>(1) Range not known. When he does not know the actual range, a single firer should engage only targets within 200 meters. The probability that he will hit a target beyond 200 meters with a single round is small.
А для определения дистанции служит прицел.

>(2) Range known. When he knows the actual range, a single firer can engage targets out to 225 meters with the LAW or 300 meters with the AT4. He should do this only when he has a flank or rear shot, or when he has no other engagement option.
Какое-то выборочное цитирование.
7-29. A skilled M136 AT4 firer can engage targets beyond the weapon’s maximum effective range of 300
meters, up to 550 meters. Beyond 550 meters, the firer must aim higher than center of mass and apply
additional lead for moving targets. Commanders must realize that accuracy is reduced at these ranges.
Also, firing at these ranges reveals the firing position to the enemy
Даже moving targets, оказывается, можно поражать.

>С уважением, Dargot.
С уважением

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От	Dargot
К	Гегемон (14.10.2014 00:17:14)
Дата	14.10.2014 12:42:01

Вы какие-то вовсе не относящиеся к теме куски приводите

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Приветствую!

>>FM23-25, ч. 6-4:
>>Single Firing. A single soldier with one light antiarmor weapon may engage an armored vehicle, but this is not the preferred method of engagement. Several light antiarmor weapons are required to kill an armored vehicle. A single firer firing one round must hit a vital part of the target to damage it at all (Figure 6-4).
Здесь речь о дальности вообще не идет.

>А еще мануал рекомендует залповый огонь.
>7-10. Two or more firers, equipped with two or more shoulder-launched munitions prepared for firing,
>engage a single target. Before firing, the first firer informs the others of the estimated speed and distance to
>the target.
Это - жалкое подобие левой руки, в смысле - стрельбы с отметкой по разрыву.

>7-11. Two or more firers can engage a single target when the range is known. These firers engage the
>target at the same time on a prearranged signal such as a command, whistle, booby trap, mine, or target
>reference point (TRP). This can be the most effective means of engagement as it places the most possible
>rounds on one target at one time, increasing the possibility of a kill.
>С многоразовым РПГ такой режим стрельбы просто недоступен.
Понятно, что залпом стрелять веселее. Еще бы попадать.

>>(1) Range not known. When he does not know the actual range, a single firer should engage only targets within 200 meters. The probability that he will hit a target beyond 200 meters with a single round is small.
>А для определения дистанции служит прицел.
...который надо бережно переставлять с одного ТПК на другой.

>>(2) Range known. When he knows the actual range, a single firer can engage targets out to 225 meters with the LAW or 300 meters with the AT4. He should do this only when he has a flank or rear shot, or when he has no other engagement option.
>Какое-то выборочное цитирование.
>7-29. A skilled M136 AT4 firer can engage targets beyond the weapon’s maximum effective range of 300
>meters, up to 550 meters.
Ну и? Умелый стрелок может стрелять по целям на дальности, превышающей максимальную эффективную дальность стрельбы - естественно, может, ствол пол 45 градусов задерите, гаранта вообще километра на 2 улетит. Из РПГ-7 тоже может, и из SMAW, и из чего угодно.
Речь идет именно об этой maximum effective range, которая четко указывается: 300м. Для SMAW не менее четко: HEAT - 500м.

>Даже moving targets, оказывается, можно поражать.
- Ты же республиканец, Джонс!- И гранаты полетели точно в цель...

С уважением, Dargot.

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От	Ibuki
К	Dargot (14.10.2014 12:42:01)
Дата	14.10.2014 17:31:26

четкость

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> Речь идет именно об этой maximum effective range, которая четко указывается: 300м. Для SMAW не менее четко: HEAT - 500м.
Никакой четкости в указании эффективной дальности без критериев поражение нет.

Четкость выглядит вот так виде соответствующих графиков:
http://oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=getRecord&metadataPrefix=html&identifier=ADA392782
http://oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=getRecord&metadataPrefix=html&identifier=ADA393159

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