От apple16
К Unicorn
Дата 27.07.2005 16:47:50
Рубрики Современность; Флот;

Спасибо

Ну тогда завтра-послезавтра

Меня собственно один вопрос интересует -
есть ли там фотографии советских кораблей
в нормальном качестве пригодном для выкусывания

Если у вас будет возможность завтра - выложите на форум или ще куда
(почтой на navsource @ mail.ru) страничку посвященную пр. 1144
(Kirov class) для примера
От Unicorn
К apple16 (27.07.2005 16:47:50)
Дата 28.07.2005 09:54:50

Re: Спасибо

Вот эта страница:

Страница из Jane's по пр. 1144


Unicorn
От apple16
К Unicorn (28.07.2005 09:54:50)
Дата 28.07.2005 10:46:46

Спасибо - ширина маленькая - драть их бесполезно

Сколько примерно там руссского флота страниц?
Если каждая по 200 кил мегабайт 20 получится.

Сравните с текстовой версией

BATTLE CRUISERS, Russian Federation

Date Posted: 14-Mar-2005


Jane's Fighting Ships

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KIROV (ORLAN) CLASS (PROJECT 1144.1/1144.2) (CGHMN)
IN SERVICE: 1

Name
No
Builders
Laid down
Launched
Commissioned

PYOTR VELIKIY (ex-Yuri Andropov)
099 (ex-183)
Baltic Yard 189, St Petersburg
11 Mar 1986
29 Apr 1989
9 Apr 1998





Displacement, tons: 19,000 standard; 24,300 full load
Dimensions, feet (metres): 826.8; 754.6 wl × 93.5 × 29.5
(252; 230 × 28.5 × 9.1)
Main machinery: CONAS; 2 KN-3 PWR; 300 MW; 2 oil-fired boilers; 2 GT3A-688 turbines; 140,000 hp(m) (102.9 MW); 2 shafts
Speed, knots: 30. Range, n miles: 14,000 at 30 kt
Complement: 726 (82 officers) plus 18 aircrew

Missiles: SSM: 20 Chelomey SS-N-19 Shipwreck (3M 45) (P-700 Granit) (improved SS-N-12 with lower flight profile) [Ref 1]; inertial guidance with command update; active radar homing to 20-450 km (10.8-243 n miles) at 1.6 Mach; warhead 350 kT nuclear or 750 kg HE; no reloads.
SAM: 12 SA-N-6/SA-N-20 Grumble (Fort/Fort M) vertical launchers [Ref 2]; 8 rounds per launcher; command guidance; semi-active radar homing to 100 km (54 n miles); warhead 90 kg (or nuclear?); 96 missiles
2 SA-N-4 Gecko twin launchers [Ref 3]; semi-active radar homing to 15 km (8 n miles) at 2.5 Mach; warhead 50 kg; altitude 9.1-3,048 m (30-10,000 ft); 40 missiles.
2 SA-N-9 Gauntlet (Kinzhal) octuple vertical launchers [Ref 4]; command guidance; active radar homing to 12 km (6.5 n miles) at 2 Mach; warhead 15 kg; altitude 3.4-12,192 m (10-40,000 ft); 128 missiles; 4 channels of fire.
SAM/Guns: 6 CADS-N-1 (Kortik/Kashtan) [Ref 5]; each has a twin 30 mm Gatling combined with 8 SA-N-11 (Grisson) and Hot Flash/Hot Spot fire-control radar/optronic director. Laser beam-riding guidance for missiles to 8 km (4.4 n miles); warhead 9 kg; 9,000 rds/min combined to 2 km (for guns).
A/S: Novator SS-N-15 (Starfish); inertial flight to 45 km (24.3 n miles); payload Type 40 torpedo or nuclear warhead; fired from fixed torpedo tubes behind shutters in the superstructure.
Guns: 2-130 mm/70 (twin) AK 130 [Ref 6]; 35/45 rds/min to 29 km (16 n miles); weight of shell 33.4 kg.
Torpedoes: 10-21 in (533 mm) (2 quin) tubes. Combination of 53 cm torpedoes (see table at front of section). Mounted in the hull adjacent the RBU 1000s on both quarters. Fixed tubes behind shutters can fire either SS-N-15 (see Missiles A/S) or Type 40 torpedoes.
A/S mortars: 1 RBU 12,000 [Ref 7]; 10 tubes per launcher; range 12,000 m; warhead 80 kg.
2 RBU 1000 6-tubed aft [Ref 8]; range 1,000 m; warhead 55 kg. UDAV-1M; torpedo countermeasures.
Countermeasures: Decoys: 2 twin PK 2 150 mm chaff launchers. Towed torpedo decoy.
ESM/ECM: 8 Foot Ball. 4 Wine Flask (intercept). 8 Bell Bash. 4 Bell Nip. Half Cup (laser intercept).
Combat Data Systems: Lesorub-44.
Weapons control: 4 Tin Man optronic trackers [Ref 9]. 2 Punch Bowl C SATCOM [Ref 10]. 4 Low Ball SATNAV. 2 Bell Crown and 2 Bell Push datalinks.
Radars: Air search: Top Pair (Top Sail + Big Net) [Ref 11]; 3D; C/D-band; range 366 km (200 n miles) for bomber, 183 km (100 n miles) for 2 m2 target.
Air/surface search: Top Plate [Ref 12]; 3D; D/E-band.
Navigation: 3 Palm Frond; I-band.
Fire control: Cross Sword [Ref 13]; K-band (for SA-N-9). Top Dome for SA-N-6 [Ref 14]; Tomb Stone E-band (for Fort M) [Ref 15]. 2 Pop Group, F/H/I-band (for SA-N-4) [Ref 16]. Kite Screech [Ref 17]; H/I/K-band (for main guns). 6 Hot Flash for CADS-N-1; I/J-band.
Aircraft control: Flyscreen B; I-band.
IFF: Salt Pot A and B.
Tacan: 2 Round House B [Ref 18].
Sonars: Horse Jaw (Polinom); hull-mounted; active search and attack; low/medium frequency.
Horse Tail; VDS; active search; medium frequency. Depth to 150-200 m (492.1-656.2 ft) depending on speed.

Helicopters: 3 Ka-27 Helix [Ref 19].


Programmes: Design work started in 1968. Type name is atomny raketny kreyser meaning nuclear-powered missile cruiser. A fifth of class was scrapped before being launched in 1989.
Structure: The Kirov class were the first Russian surface warships with nuclear propulsion. In addition to the nuclear plant a unique maritime combination with an auxiliary oil-fuelled system has been installed. This provides a superheat capability, boosting the normal steam output by some 50 per cent. The SS-N-19 tubes are set at an angle of about 45º. CADS-N-1 with a central fire-control radar on six mountings, each of which has two cannon and eight missile launchers. Two are mounted either side of the SS-N-19 forward and four on the after superstructure. Same A/S system as the frigate Neustrashimy with fixed torpedo tubes in ports behind shutters in the superstructure for firing SS-N-15 or Type 45 torpedoes. There are reported to be about 500 SAM of different types. Velikiy, the only operational ship, has a Tomb Stone fire-control radar instead of a forward Top Dome for SA-N-20 which is a maritime variant of SA-10C.
Operational: Based in the Northern Fleet. Over-the-horizon targeting for SS-N-19 provided by Punch Bowl SATCOM or helicopter. The first ship of the class of four, Admiral Ushakov, was formally decommissioned in 2004 and is to be scrapped. The second ship, Admiral Lazarev has been inactive in the Pacific Fleet for some years and is also likely to be scrapped. Plans to refit the third ship, Admiral Nakhimov, laid up since 1999, appear to have been abandoned.

UPDATED

http://www2.janes.com/janesdata/yb/jfs/images/l0528401.jpg
PYOTR VELIKIY - Ian Sturton


http://www2.janes.com/janesdata/yb/jfs/images/p1042309.jpg
PYOTR VELIKIY - 6/2001*, S Breyer


http://www2.janes.com/janesdata/yb/jfs/images/p0570896.jpg
PYOTR VELIKIY - 8/2003



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© 2005 Jane's Information Group Commodore Stephen Saunders R
От Unicorn
К apple16 (28.07.2005 10:46:46)
Дата 28.07.2005 10:56:38

Ну, что есть...

И это, на самом деле, содрано с экрана при увеличении 120% номинала. Число страниц по России могу посмотреть.

Unicorn
От apple16
К Unicorn (28.07.2005 10:56:38)
Дата 28.07.2005 11:38:29

Спасибо, наверное не надо -

это если бы кто собрался выкладывать
на rapidshare можно было бы размер оценить.