От	Александр Снегов
К	All
Дата	09.10.2001 06:42:19
Рубрики	Война и мир;

Левая Америка о войне в Афганистане

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Из компартии США

Comrades, Friends:

For your information:


October 7, 2001

TO: All clubs and districts
FR: National Organization Department

Dear comrades,

The bombing of Afghanistan has upped the ante on the urgency of working to build broad coalitions for peace and against terrorism.

Tonight we held an emergency meeting in which comrades from all over the country participated, to discuss our response to this new, very dangerous development. The stakes are high, and require that our Party do its
best,most creative thinking about tactics.

It would be a big mistake to gauge the level of anti-war sentiment simply by looking at those who are ready to attend a demonstration. The anti-war sentiment is much broader and bigger than the size of the demonstrations indicate, even at this early stage, which is important. And people oppose
military action for different reasons, ranging from concern about terrorist
reprisals, to the danger that a larger war will result, to the terrible fact that many innocent people will be killed by U.S. bombs. All of these are reasons to call for peace.

We need to do everything we can to help broaden the organized peace movement and its activities, and to prevent its narrowing down. We need to come up with concrete, practical and diverse ways that the broadest
anti-war sentiment can be expressed, from finding pro-peace speakers for church services to providing people with the phone number of the local Congressperson, to calling in to radio programs and writing letters to the editor.

We cannot stress enough the importance of getting in touch with our Congressional representatives and of organizing others to do this as quickly as possible, whether by phone, email, or delegations to local
offices.

A Party statement is being drafted tonight which will express in the first place our opposition to war and to unilateral U.S. action. To the call for peace and justice we connect the call for international, political forms and solutions to the threat that terrorism poses to the people of the whole
world. Our statement will point to the Bush Administration's attempt to use crisis to ram all aspects of its right wing agenda through, from the dumping of the economic crisis onto the people, to the attempts to subvert
civil liberties and democratic rights.

The statement will be available on the web page and we will also email it to you. As with our previous statements we urge everyone to get it out as widely as possible. We need to make as public as we can our Party's
position against war and against terrorism, both to influence public opinion and also because it is very important that our views be widely known, given the attack on civil liberties that is underway.

The National Organization Department will meet Tuesday morning to further discuss how to help the clubs and districts take practical initiatives in this frightening and complex situation. As a start, districts should order extra bundles of this week's PWW, and plan special distributions, in neighborhoods and workplaces, as well as to trade unionists and other activists. Clubs should call emergency meetings of members and friends, and where possible, district and national leaders should attend those meetings.

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От	Almar
К	Александр Снегов (09.10.2001 06:42:19)
Дата	12.10.2001 10:13:47

Re: спор о невинном ребенке - голливудская интерпретация

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Лавры Достоевского не дают покоя и нашим братанам из Америки.
Смотрел тут боевик один («Пароль Рыба-меч» – кажется) с сайентологом Траволтой в главной роли (кстати неплохо снято). Так вот там центральное место занимает идейный и физический поединок двух главных героев.
1. Отрицательный герой. Отморозок агент засекреченной американской спецслужбы, призванной бороться с врагами Америки, в частности, с арабскими террористами. Засекречен он настолько, что фактически остается без контроля и предоставлен самому себе, тем не менее работу свою почему-то не бросает.
2. Положительный герой. Простой американский парень «со стальными яйцами», которой первоначально декларирует, что ему плевать на Америку, правительство и прочее и которого ничего не интересует, кроме собственной семьи, но когда приходит час Х, как то забывает об этом и честно выполняет свой долг.

В перерывах между перестрелками и погонями герои ведут диалог в духе Достоевского
- 2 выступает с позиций гуманизма, осуждая 1 за пролитую кровь невинных людей
- 1 задает вопрос, что выберет 2, если нужно пожертвовать невинным ребенком, чтобы избавить человечество от болезней
- 2 отказывается приносить ребенка в жертву и встречно задает тот же вопрос 1, но уже увеличивая количество жертв до 10 невинных детей. То есть, он хочет узнать, где та грань, когда по мнению 1 жертвы оправданы
- 1 укоряет 2, за то что пожалев невинного ребенка, тот не жалеет множество людей, умирающих от болезней

на этом спор прерывается

Интересно, как американцы вышли из данного тупика. Хоть герой 2 и убивает в конце фильма героя 1, формально выполняя свой долг гуманиста. Но герой 1 после этого оказывается как то жив и используя ворованные из банка деньги продолжает наказывать нехороших врагов Америки с именами созвучными имени Бен Ладен. Получается, что этот герой был не такой уж и отрицательный.
То есть и волки сыты и овцы целы.

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От	Леонид
К	Almar (12.10.2001 10:13:47)
Дата	12.10.2001 22:32:24

О слезинке ребенка

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А не кажется ли вам, что любая мать могла бы возразить Достоевскому (или Мвану Карамазову - недаром слова о слезинке ребенка Достоевский вложил в уста, гововрившиме гордо и богохульно), сказав, что не только благо всего человечества, но конкретное благо вот этого конкретного ребенка куда ей дороже, чем многие его слезы.
Ну вот как жена ребенка азбуке учила. Он слушает невнимательно. А она возьмет мешалку для сковороды и орет на него "Сейчас плохо тебе будет! Ты не на меня смотри, на буквы смотри! Какая это буква? Не знаешь?! Вот тебе, вот тебе"! И бац его мешалкой раз, другой, третий. Он реветь. А она снова.
Много слез пролил ребенок. Но азбуку выучил в итоге.

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От	Pout
К	Александр Снегов (09.10.2001 06:42:19)
Дата	11.10.2001 21:20:15

будущие.фильмы о WTC."This one has it all, Titanic meets Grand Canyon meets Gladiator"

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"This one has it all, Titanic meets Grand Canyon meets Gladiator.."


Тут Рустем давал ссылку на вою печальную статью о застое
кино-производства в США. Из-за событий 9\11 сняты с производства и
прпоката несколько блокбастеров, прекращено производство
фильмов-катастроф и прочих ужастиков, могущих напомнить о трагедии.
Любимого нашим зрителем Шварцнеггера даже зарезали, готовый фильм не
выйдет в прокат, он там должен был спасать заложников в захваченном
небоскребе.

Думаю, слухи о смерти амер.кино преувеличены( в отличие от нескольких
авиакомпаний). Голливуд бессмертен. Вот тут с сайта газеты "eXile".
Картина более оптимистичная. (Перевести на русский трудновато, много
жаргонизмов).
Мне особенно понравился мега-супер-фильм "WТС" с участием всех
суперзвезд Голливуда и далее де Ниро в роли Бен Ладена

Просьба американцев подсказать личности некоторых актеров и их амплуа,
если они знают. Кто такая "Наташа"из каких то"Цыплят"?Что за личности
озвучивают диснеевский мультик про историю ислама - это что, "Один дома"
что ли в роли Мухаммеда?
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Definitely Be Seeing Next Year

We at the eXile feel confident that we shared the feelings of most
Americans after the collapse of the World Trade Center three weeks ago,
when we thought to ourselves, in anguish, "Who has the film rights to
the number '9-1-1'? Quick, get an agent on the phone!" And indeed, since
then, we have in fact contacted our house film agent, just to see how
many "9/11" scripts are out there already. From what little we know of
the business, we're betting that the title has already been snapped up,
with a director and six or seven big names, plus David Caruso, already
signed to the project. Anyway, we're waiting for the report from our
agent on that one: In the meantime, we hunkered down here in Moscow to
prepare ourselves for the other War With Islam-inspired titles we're
certain to see within the next year or two. Here's a short list of
inevitable titles, along with commentary by the eXile film agent, Sidney
Rubin of the William Morris Agency:

TITLE: 9/11


CAST:

Natasha ("Chick from Species") Henstridge, Haley Joel Osment, Michael
Rooker, Toby Maguire

PLOT:

Rooker-Henstridge-Osment are a mildly dysfunctional middle class New
York family. Henstridge is a Harvard grad who drinks too much and is
losing her looks because she's unhappily married to Rooker, a macho New
York City fireman whom she found attractive ten years ago but now feels
emotionally and intellectually constricted by. But when Rooker dies
fighting the World Trade Center fire, she and her nightmare-plagued son
Osment feel a void. Enter Maguire, Rooker's effete brother-opposite, who
plays bass in a Violent Femmes-style band and writes dissidenty
anti-corporate articles for The Village Voice. Despite the fact that
they live in the same city, Maguire and Rooker hadn't talked in years
when 9/11 arrives. Guilt-plagued after Rooker's funeral, he steps into
his brother's role in the family, curing Osment's nightmares and being
the intelligent platonic companion Henstridge has needed all these
years. But when the war in Afghanistan begins, Maguire, awakened to a
new sense of patriotic duty, enlists and fights-for his brother's
memory. Featuring original songs by Hootie and the Blowfish.

SID RUBIN'S TAKE:

"Rooker's ready for this kind of move up. It took ten years of good-guy
action roles to make up for Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer. Maguire'
s a hard sell to middle America."


TITLE: BUNKER BUDDIES


CAST:

Rob Schneider, Chris Tucker, Jon Voight

PLOT:

In war, all cowards are on the same side! Schneider and Tucker are both
deserters-Schneider from the 101st Airborne (where he was serving as
punishment for an excess of parking tickets), and Tucker from the
Taliban army. Before a major ground battle, the two of them by chance
choose to hide in the same deserted mountain bunker. After some initial
confrontational hilarity, the two of them decide to team up and make a
run for China together-in drag. With Jon Voight as the evil MP
commander. Jamie Farr appears in a brief cameo that is a winking nod to
both his cross-dressing Klinger in M*A*S*H and his car-happy oil sheik
in the Cannonball Run series.

SID RUBIN'S TAKE:

"A version of this script, set in the Persian gulf, was passed around
ten years ago, but it died when they couldn't get anyone to play the
Iraqi. Tucker will get $30 million to play an Afghan."


TITLE: WTC


CAST:

Julia Roberts, Tom Hanks, Kevin Kline, Heath Ledger, Jennifer Lopez,
Harrison Ford, Kevin Costner, Helen Hunt, Gregg Kinnear, Penelope Cruz,
Kate Hudson, Michael Jordan, Matthew McConaghey, Danny Glover, Kevin
Pollak, Christopher Reeve, Richard Harris, Charlton Heston

PLOT:

A sweeping, ensemble-cast epic dramatizing the terrorist attacks and the
initial aftermath. The unprecedented star-studded cast will make for an
opening credits sequence lasting in excess of 30 minutes. To make the
budget manageable, all the stars will be working for scale, which they
will donate to the World Trade Center relief fund. Way too many subplots
to go into; among others, Roberts and Hanks are reporters for rival
networks who must join forces in order to bring the story to the people
(and save a few lives in the process); Australian tourist Ledger meets
and falls in love with cleaning woman J-Lo on the 95th floor of the
North Tower after the first plane hits (when they're trapped in the
subsequent debris, he sacrifices himself so that she may survive);
President Bush (Harrison Ford) flies from Florida to Louisiana to
Nebraska on Air Force One in the aftermath of the attacks, all the while
arguing with aides Costner and Hunt that he is needed immediately back
in Washington; Reeve, a high-powered stock broker who had been paralyzed
in a cocaine-and-alcohol-fueled car crash that took three other lives
(including a 9-month-old infant), comes to terms with his guilt and
rejoins the human race as he mourns with other Americans in the wake of
the tragedy; Richard Harris, a NYC fire chief on his final day before
retiring, learns that his entire squad has been killed in the rescue
operation, etc. NY Mayor Rudi Giuliani and countless senators and former
Secretaries of State and Defense appear as themselves.

SID RUBIN'S TAKE:

"This one has it all, Titanic meets Grand Canyon meets Gladiator meets A
Bridge Too Far. Just the horde of personal assistants and hair stylists
attending to all the stars will be twice as large as the crew of an
average film. Reportedly, the studio is still in negotiations with the
National Security Administration to have George W. play himself."


TITLE: THE PROPHET


CAST:

Macaulay Culkin, Angela Bassett, Robin Williams (voices)

PLOT:

Disney's attempt to show the true, peaceful story of Islam in an
animated blockbuster. There will be some controversy when Culkin is
chosen as the voice for the teenage Mohammed. With Bassett as his mother
and Danny Glover as the archangel Gabriel. Star-studded soundtrack will
include a duet between Michael Jackson and Turkish megastar Tarkan.

SID RUBIN'S TAKE:

"P.O.E. 2? More like pee-yew, too. Bet on it, though-though nobody wants
to even take a lunch about this film, it will get made."


TITLE: FINAL SHOWDOWN


CAST:

Boston Celtics and Los Angeles Lakers of the mid 1980s

PLOT:

Zucker brothers David and Jerry team up as co-directors for the first
time since 1986's Ruthless People in this ultra-high-concept political
thriller depicting the standoff between the U.S. administration and
Osama bin Laden. Script by Tom Clancy. The curious conceit: the two
opposing sides are played by, respectively, the classic mid-80s NBA
rivals Boston Celtics and Los Angeles Lakers. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar plays
bin Laden, with Magic Johnson, James Worthy, Byron Scott, Michael
Cooper, and Kurt Rambis as various of his underlings and Taliban
protectors. The American side, meanwhile, is led by Danny Ainge as
President Bush, along with Larry Bird as Vice-President Cheney, Dennis
Johnson as Secretary of State Colin Powell, Robert Parish as National
Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice, and Kevin McHale in a challenging dual
role as Defense Secretary Dick Rumsfeld and Attorney General John
Ashcroft. Timothy Hutton makes an uncredited appearance as Bush's Chief
of Staff.

SID RUBIN'S TAKE:

"This one is certainly a major risk on every conceivable level, but if
it actually works: look out!"


TITLE: MEMENTO 2


CAST:

Guy Pearce, Robert De Niro, Chris Tucker, Joan Chen, Ben Gazzara

PLOT:

Amnesiac Pearce is again manipulated, this time by Osama bin Laden (de
Niro), who calls him in his hotel room night after night, hinting that
an international financial conspiracy based in the World Trade Center
killed his wife. Thrilling sequences, in reverse time, showing Pearce's
struggle to remember what he is doing in the cabin of UA flight 11, and,
later, negotiate the metal detectors at Logan airport. The film opens
with FBI investigators finding Polaroids of box-cutters and piles of
post-it notes in Arabic in an East Boston hotel. With Chris Tucker as
Pearce's true-believing Saudi accomplice, and Chen and Gazzara as
horrified passengers who realize Pearce's problem too late.

SID RUBIN'S TAKE:

"Typical blockbuster scenario. The first movie gets the word-of-mouth
sales, the second makes the money. Like Die Hard and First Blood. An
inspired, chilling performance snaps De Niro's losing streak. Look for a
Hollywood heavyweight like Spielberg or De Palma take over directing
reins from young turk Chris Nolan."


TITLE: AROUND THE WAY


CAST:

Ice Cube, DMX, Sean "Puffy" Combs, Salma Hayek, Craig T. Nelson, Ben
Kingsley, Chris Tucker

PLOT:

South Central LA's baddest street gang (Cube, DMX, Combs, et al) finds
out that a group of Arab terrorists, led by the diabolical bald
Kingsley, are living "around the way." When the gang finds out that the
group is plotting to blow up LAX, they take matters into their own
hands-getting help along the way from their old nemesis, retired
anti-gang cop Nelson. The film ends in a thrilling drive-by scene in
which Kingsley and his cold-blooded henchman Tucker are gunned down on
the way to the bombing.

SID RUBIN'S TAKE:

"Mario Van Peebles will want in on this movie and he won't be able to
get his foot in the door, that's how hot this script will be. There's
already talk about legal problems surrounding the soundtrack rights."


TITLE: METTLE DETECTOR


CAST:

Janeane Garofalo, Ben Affleck, Albert Finney

PLOT:

Garofalo, an ex-FBI agent who had lost her badge in disgrace through a
bureaucratic snafu that wasn't her fault, now works as a rent-a-cop
security guard at Boston's Logan Airport. After the terrorist attacks,
she thinks she recalls a passenger who had passed through her metal
detector that morning from a terrorist case she worked on back with the
bureau. She has much trouble convincing former colleague Ben Affleck-who
still blames her for the death of his partner (Matt Damon in a flashback
cameo) and is now heading the investigation-that her hunch is the key to
uncovering the roots of the terrorist groups. Her father (Finney), a
retired Pace University professor and former peace activist with whom
she has a troubled but loving relationship, provides much needed
guidance and moral support as she struggles to win her badge back and
hunt down the culprits.

SID RUBIN'S TAKE:

"I've heard Gus Van Sant and Sam Raimi's names tossed around as possible
directors for this one. Unfortunately, it could end up being trapped
somewhere between a blockbuster and a quirky independent picture-a
dangerous no-man's land in today's uncertain political and economic
climate."


TITLE: SOUL SURVIVORS


CAST:

Whoopi Goldberg, Reese Witherspoon, Ted Danson

PLOT:

Pampered, arrogant businesswoman Witherspoon and her quietly submissive
secretary (Goldberg) have never had much to say to one another-until
they find themselves trapped in the World Trade Center in this
improbable buddy picture. Witherspoon learns that her Ivy League
education and social-climbing skills are of little help in a towering
inferno just minutes away from crumbling to the ground, while Goldberg
discovers that even her instinctive street smarts will not be enough to
save her without a little from an unexpected new friend.

SID RUBIN'S TAKE:

"This was already in development prior to the attacks, although then it
was to be set in a Silicon Valley office park with the tentative title
Dot-Bomb. Look for the implied lesbian tension between Goldberg and
Witherspoon to be de-emphasized as the action is transplanted to the
World Trade Center."


TITLE: SHORT CIRCUIT 3


CAST:

Fisher Stevens, Hugh Grant, Dan Aykroyd

PLOT:

Stevens reprises his role as the Pakistani tech weenie with the
convenience store accent in this unlikely second sequel to the Steve
Guttenberg/Ally Sheedy comedy. This time around, the wisecracking Johnny
5 robot (now outfitted with a self-contained atomic device) has fallen
into the hands of Osama bin Laden and Stevens must bumble his way across
the Afghan border and infiltrate Taliban headquarters in order to avert
a nuclear catastrophe. He gets a little help along the way from a
stammering wire-service photographer (Grant) and an Afghan War-era deep
cover CIA agent (Aykroyd) who refuses to accept that the Cold War is
over.

SID RUBIN'S TAKE:

"Boy, I sure wouldn't want to be Hugh Grant's agent if this mess
actually gets released."


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От	Леонид
К	Pout (11.10.2001 21:20:15)
Дата	12.10.2001 08:59:54

Сектантка

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Отвечу на вопрос про некую Наташу. Это Наташа Хенстридж. В фильме "Под осадой", снятом по реальным происшествием с разгромом секты в Штатах, она играет главную роль сектанки.
Там некий проповедник собирает своих последователей со дна американского общества. Наркоманов, проституток. Отучает их от пороков, обучает владеть оружием и взрывному делу. Правда, все это за кадром. Говорится просто. В секте свободная любовь. Начинается фильм с того, что ФБР идет на штурм селения сектантов, а те встречают их яростным огнем. фбровцы рассевиаются. Двое (один из них негр) укрываются в каком-то доме, там еще двое приходят из полиции. Нервы у всех на пределе, и они готовы друг друга перестрелять. В доме находят двух девушек из секты. Один хотят девушек изнасиловать и убить, другой просто побаловаться с ними, а фбровцы вобще не знают, чего делать и хотят чухнуть, но все простреливается.
Так вот, та сектантка, которую играет эта Наташа, тихо и спокойно мочит фбровцев из-за угла. И стравливает их между собой. В конце концов она остается с раненным фбровцем (которому она нравиться и который ее пытался защищать) наедине. И собирается замочить и его. Однако прибывает подкрепление, она получает три пули в грудь и умирает со словами "Я вижу свет". А спецназ идет на новый штурм селения сектантов.
Сам фильм и сюжет его не очень сильный. Но сделан красиво.

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От	Pout
К	Леонид (12.10.2001 08:59:54)
Дата	12.10.2001 09:11:26

Ага, спасибо. Вот еще про заказные фильмы с Фоксньюс

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Крепкий орешек-2 тут на днях показали...Очень жизненное кино.
боинга падают-горят почти как в реале.
Сценариста привлекают к новым антитеррористическим постановкам

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,36062,00.html


Army Looks to Hollywood for Scenarios


Twentieth Century Fox
Bonnie Bedelia and Alan Rickman in a scene from Die Hard.
Tuesday, October 09, 2001
By Michael Y. Park



NEW YORK — Everyone said it: The attacks made it seem like real life had turned into a movie.


Now, in its fight against terrorism, the Army is working with screenwriters to investigate whether the opposite is true too, that movie plots could be a blueprint for planning — or preventing — the next terrorist strike against America.

Screenwriters of such anti-terrorist fare as Die Hard, MacGyver and Delta Force One teamed up last week with the U.S. Army at the University of Southern California to think up possible plots terrorists might hatch, and the ways the government could stop them, Daily Variety reported Monday.



AP
Brad Pitt and Edward Norton in Fight Club.
"There is a group of entertainment folks, I hesitate to limit it to writers, who have been meeting with the ICT (Institute for Creative Technologies) and the Army," Jennifer Fredrick, a spokeswoman for ICT told the New York Post.

It's a telling shift for the ICT, which USC started on Aug. 18, 1999, as part of a five-year Army contract. The current brains-for-peace project is a far cry from the institute's original mandate, which was to create virtual-reality trainers for soldiers. The group, which aims to eliminate "short-term threats against the country," is headed by Army Brig. Gen. Kenneth Bergquist, and has met twice on a teleconference with the Pentagon, a university source told Daily Variety.

Bergquist is the president of the Joint Special Operations University in Hurlburt Field, Fla., a school founded to help coordinate joint operations of the various military branches' special-operations units.

The ICT Web site describes how it planned to accomplish its original mission:

"The ICT will work with the entertainment industry, which brings expertise in story, character, visual effects and production; game developers, who bring computer graphics and modeling resources; and the computer science community, which brings innovation in networking, artificial intelligence and virtual reality technology. In awarding this contract to USC, the Army recognized that the University's wide range of expertise complements the ICT's mission."

ICT's creative director, James Korris told Daily Variety the meetings were ongoing but didn't say what was discussed.

Calls to Korris from Fox News were forwarded to a public relations firm, where a spokesman said news of the project was prematurely leaked and that a public statement would be forthcoming.

Bergquist could not be reached by telephone yesterday. A spokesman for the Joint Chiefs of Staff said most military personnel not working on the strikes in Afghanistan were out of the office Monday for the national holiday.

Screenwriters in the anti-terrorist working group include Die Hard's Steven E. De Souza, MacGyver's David Engelbach and Paul De Meo as well as Danny Bilson of The Rocketeer. Directors include Joseph Zito, responsible for movies like Delta Force One and Missing In Action, Fight Club's David Fincher, Spike Jonze of Being John Malkovich, Randal Kleiser of Shadow of Doubt, and The In Crowd's Mary Lambert, according to reports.

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От	Александр Снегов
К	Александр Снегов (09.10.2001 06:42:19)
Дата	11.10.2001 04:11:08

Памятка борцов за гражданские права в Америке (англ)

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распространяемая сейчас (показатель, однако).

KNOW YOUR RIGHTS! - prepared by the National Lawyers Guild

What rights do I have?

The Right to Advocate for Change.

The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects the rights of
groups and individuals who advocate changes in laws, government
practices, and even the form of government.

The Right to Remain Silent.

The Fifth Amendment of the Constitution provides that every person has
the right to remain silent in the face of questions posed by any police
officer or government agent.

The Right to be Free from "Unreasonable Searches and Seizures."

The Fourth Amendment is supposed to protect your privacy. Without a
warrant, no government agent is allowed to search your home or office
and you can refuse to let them in. Know, however, that it is easy for
the government to monitor your telephone calls, conversations in your
office, home, car, or meeting place, as well as mail. E-mail is
particularly insecure. The government has already begun stepping up its
monitoring of e-mails.

CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS CANNOT BE SUSPENDED -- EVEN DURING A STATE OF
EMERGENCY OR WARTIME.

What should I do if agents come to question me?

1. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO TALK TO THE POLICE, FBI, INS, OR ANY OTHER LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENT OR INVESTIGATOR. Other than providing your name and
address to a police officer who is investigating a crime, you are not
legally obligated to talk to anyone: on the street, at your home or
office, if you've been arrested, or even if you're in jail. Only a judge
has the legal authority to order you to answer questions.

2. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO LET POLICE OR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENTS INTO
YOUR HOME OR OFFICE UNLESS THEY HAVE A SEARCH WARRANT OR ARREST WARRANT.
Demand to see the warrant. The warrant must specifically describe the
place to be searched and the things to be seized. If they have a
warrant, you cannot stop them from entering and searching, but you
should still tell them that you do not consent to a search. This will
limit them to the scope of the search authorized by the warrant.

3. IF THEY DO PRESENT A WARRANT, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MONITOR THEIR
SEARCH AND ACTIVITIES. You have the right to observe what they do. You
have the right to ask them for their names and titles. Take written
notes including their names, badge numbers, and what agency they are
from. Have your friends who are present act as witnesses. Give this
information to your lawyer. A warrant does not give the government the
right to question, nor does it obligate you to answer questions.

4. IF THE POLICE OR FBI OR INS OR ANYONE ELSE TRIES TO QUESTION YOU OR
TRIES TO ENTER YOUR HOME WITHOUT A WARRANT, JUST SAY NO! Police and
other law enforcement agents are very skilled at getting information
from people. Many people are afraid that if they refuse to cooperate, it
will appear as if they have something to hide. Don't be fooled. The
police are allowed to (and do) lie to you. Although agents may seem nice
and pretend to be on your side, they are likely to be intent on learning
about the habits, opinions, and affiliations of people not suspected of
wrongdoing, with the end goal of stopping political activity with which
the government disagrees. Trying to answer agents' questions, or trying
to "educate them" about your cause can be very dangerous. You can never
tell how a seemingly harmless bit of information that you give them
might be used and misconstrued to hurt you or someone else. And keep in
mind that lying to a federal agent is a crime.

5. IF YOU ARE STOPPED ON THE STREET, ASK IF YOU ARE FREE TO GO. If you
are stopped by the police, ask them why. If they do not have a good
reason for stopping you, or if you find yourself chatting for more than
about a minute, ask ""Am I under arrest, or am I free to go."" If they
do not state that you are under arrest, tell them that you do not wish
to continue speaking with them and that you are going to go about your
business. Then do so.

6. ANYTHING YOU SAY TO THE POLICE, FBI, INS, ETC. WILL BE USED AGAINST
YOU AND OTHERS. Once you've been arrested, you cannot talk your way out
of it! Don't try to engage the cops in dialogue or respond to their
accusations.

7. THE FBI MAY THREATEN YOU WITH A GRAND JURY SUBPOENA IF YOU DON'T TALK
TO THEM. They may give you a subpoena anyway, so anything you tell them
may permit them to ask you more detailed questions later. You may also
have legal grounds to refuse to answer questions before a grand jury. If
you are given a grand jury subpoena, you should call a lawyer
immediately (see contact information at the end). Tell your friends and
movement groups about the subpoena and discuss how to respond. Do not
try to deal with this alone.

8. IF YOU ARE NERVOUS ABOUT SIMPLY REFUSING TO TALK, TELL THEM TO
CONTACT YOUR LAWYER. They should stop trying to question you once you
announce your desire to consult a lawyer. You do not have to already
have one. Remember to get the name, agency, and telephone number of any
investigator who visits you, and contact the National Lawyers Guild for
help getting a lawyer.

How should I respond to threatening letters or calls?

If your home or office is broken into, or threats have been made against
you, your organization, or someone you work with, share this information
with everyone affected. Take immediate steps to increase personal and
office security. You should discuss with your organization and with a
lawyer whether and how to report such incidents to the police and the
advisability of taking other legal action. If you decide to make a
report, do not do so without a lawyer present.

What if I suspect surveillance?

Prudence is the best course, no matter who you suspect, or what the
basis of your suspicion. Do not hesitate to confront suspected agents
politely, in public, with at least one other person present, and inquire
about their business. If the suspect declines to answer, he or she at
least now knows that you are aware of the surveillance. If you suspect
government agents are monitoring you, or are harassing you, report this
to the National Lawyers Guild.

What if I am not a citizen?

1. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REVEAL YOUR IMMIGRATION STATUS. We cannot count on
the police to honor local sanctuary ordinances, and the fact that the
INS obtained your name in violation of a sanctuary ordinance will NOT
prevent you from being deported.

2. FOREIGN NATIONALS WHO ARE ARRESTED IN THE U.S. HAVE THE RIGHT TO CALL
YOUR CONSULATE or to have the police inform your consulate of your
arrest. The police must allow your consul to visit or speak with you.
Your consul might assist you in finding a lawyer or offer other help,
such as contacting your family. You also have the right to refuse help
from your consulate.

3. DO NOT TALK TO THE INS, EVEN ON THE PHONE, before talking to an
immigration lawyer. Many INS officers view ""enforcement,"" meaning
deporting people, as their primary job. They do not believe that
explaining immigration options is part of their job, and most will
readily admit this. (Noncitizens who are victims of domestic abuse
should speak with an expert in both immigration law and domestic
violence.) A noncitizen should always speak with an immigration law
expert before speaking to the INS either in person or by telephone.

4. KNOW AND ASSERT YOUR RIGHTS! All noncitizens have the following
rights, regardless of your immigration status: a. The right to speak to
an attorney before answering any questions or signing any documents; b.
The right to a hearing with an Immigration Judge; c. The right to have
an attorney at that hearing and in any interview with INS (however you
do not have the right to a free, government-paid lawyer); and d. The
right to request release from detention, by paying a bond if necessary.

Noncitizens must assert these rights. If you do not demand these rights,
you can be deported without seeing either an attorney or a judge.
Leaving the U.S. in this way may have serious consequences for your
ability to later enter or to gain legal immigration status in the U.S.

5. TALK TO AN IMMIGRATION LAWYER BEFORE LEAVING THE U.S. Anyone not a
U.S. citizen may be barred from coming back to the U.S. if they fall
into certain categories of people barred from entering. This includes
some lawful permanent residents and applicants for green cards. Some
noncitizens that have been in the U.S. without INS permission may be
permanently barred from re-entering. In addition, some noncitizens that
leave the US and return with INS permission may be swiftly removed from
the U.S. if they end up in immigration proceedings.

CONTACT INFORMATION

National Lawyers Guild National office: (212) 627-2656, www.nlg.org

National Immigration Project: (617) 227-9727

Immigration Law Center Immigration law information is available on
www.nilc.org

American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee
Report hate crimes and harassment against Arab Americans and Muslims to
ADC: (202) 244-2990.

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От	Александр Снегов
К	Александр Снегов (11.10.2001 04:11:08)
Дата	11.10.2001 06:57:39

Прошу обратить внимание на концовку (последние три строчки)

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Даны контактные телефоны
American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee
Report hate crimes and harassment against Arab Americans and Muslims to
ADC: (202) 244-2990.
Показатель настроений, однако. Однако, российских демборцов с коммунизмом и за права человека не видно и не слышно. Тоже показатель их продажности.

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От	Александр Снегов
К	Александр Снегов (09.10.2001 06:42:19)
Дата	10.10.2001 08:28:52

Есть другая Америка!

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Left.ru
Но есть и другая Америка
"Но была и другая Германия..."
Из фильма М.Ромма "Обыкновенный фашизм"


29 сентября в США состоялись митинг и шествие против войны и расизма. На улицы Сан-Франциско вышли более 20 тысяч человек, прибывших со всех концов страны.

27 и 29 сентября по всему миру прокатились также чрезвычайно успешные антивоенные митинги солидарности.

У организаторов шествия в США первоначально был некоторый скептицизм, не слишком ли мало времени прошло после событий 11 сентября, чтобы проводить антивоенные и антирасистские демонстрации. Но преобладающая положительная реакция, письма поддержки от отдельных лиц и организаций, широко представляющих американскую нацию здесь и за границей, показали, что эти дни - не время, когда надо держаться далеко от набирающей обороты военной машины. Напротив, это - время, когда нужно объединиться и показать миру, что поднимается сильное, растущее антивоенное движение - и здесь в США, и в странах во всем мире.

Подавляющее большинство участников субботнего шествия по всей стране были студенты и молодежь. Их присутствие отразило широкий спектр поддержки, приходящей от различных культурных, социальных и религиозных слоев.

Международная Коалиция ANSWER "ОТВЕТ" хочет сохранить импульс, возникший в субботу, и призывает всех людей по всей стране и за границей организовать день местных и региональных действий 27-го октября. Этим путем Коалиция надеется продолжать строить облик и голос этого нового антивоенного движения. И она поощряет всех, кто будет основывать отделения организации "ОТВЕТ" в своих школах, центрах сообщества и городах, чтобы помогать организации нового дня действий.

Такую информацию распространил 30 сентября Международный Центр Действия IAC, находящийся в США. Но жизнь потребовала от противников войны и империализма немедленной реакции.

И сегодня, уже через несколько часов после начала бомбежек Афганистана, в Вашингтоне собрался антивоенный митинг, в котором участвовало две тысячи человек. Международный Центр Действия намерен и дальше продолжать борьбу. В нескольких городах США НЕМЕДЛЕННО организуются демонстрации протеста. Нам есть чему поучиться у американских товарищей. Международный Центр действий ЗАРАНЕЕ НАЗНАЧИЛ ДЕМОНСТРАЦИИ НА СЛЕДУЮЩИЙ ЖЕ ДЕНЬ В СЛУЧАЕ НАЧАЛА ВОЕННЫХ ДЕЙСТВИЙ США В АФГАНИСТАНЕ, о чем было вывешено объявление на сайте IAC:

If the U.S. initiates a military action/strike, there will be a demonstration at 5pm the next day at the Federal Building in Times Square in NYC. If on a weekend, the demonstration will be at 12 noon Saturday/Sunday. There will also be a National Student Walk-Out.


Вот список акций, организуемых сегодня:

Today, Sunday, October 7, the U.S. began bombing Afghanistan

*** ACTION ALERT *** ACTION ALERT *** ACTION ALERT ****

EMERGENCY RESPONSE AGAINST WAR:

(НЕМЕДЛЕННЫЙ ПРОТЕСТ ПРОТИВ ВОЙНЫ)

Protests will take place in cities all over the U.S. and
around the world to say WAR & RACISM ARE NOT THE ANSWER!

IN NEW YORK CITY:
Sun, Oct. 7: Protest 3 pm in Union Sq.
Mon, Oct. 8: Protest 5 pm, Times Square (43rd St. &
Broadway)

IN SAN FRANCISCO:
Sun, Oct. 7: Protest 5 pm, Powell and Market
Mon, Oct. 8: Protest 5 pm, downtown Berkeley- BART station

IN D.C.:
Mon, Oct 8: Protest 5 pm, White House
(if not accessible, go to McPherson Square- 15th & I)

Call circulated by International A.N.S.W.E.R. - Act Now to
Stop War & End Racism.

See www.InternationalANSWER.org and www.iacenter.org for
protests around the world!

Call 212-633-6646 for more info.
Email iacenter@iacenter.org to get on our email alert list!
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Есть она - другая Америка!

А вот есть ли Россия, достойная этой другой Америки?

Нам нельзя спать. Нужно требовать от российского государства прекратить пособничать США в подготовке и осуществлении агрессии против Афганистана.

Руки прочь от Афганистана! Смерть империализму!

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От	Александр Снегов
К	Александр Снегов (09.10.2001 06:42:19)
Дата	10.10.2001 05:53:47

Заявление компартии США (англ)

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War Will Not End Terrorism

October 8, 2001 New York City- The Bush Administration's bombing of Afghanistan Oct. 7 is not a solution to the terrible events of September 11th. Bush's action is driven more by revenge and retaliation, and is aimed
at gaining a geo-political advantage. It is not an effective approach to ending terrorism and bringing those responsible to justice.

The Communist Party USA strongly opposes this military attack. The bombing has sharply escalated the tragic cycle of violence, suffering and death.
War will only compound the human crisis in Afghanistan and the region. In the meantime, the roots of terrorism remain unchanged.

While the vast majority of the world opposes terrorism, the Bush administration chose a course of action that most governments could not endorse. Besides Britain, no other country is fully in agreement with the
military action. The war policy of the Bush Administration isolates the U.S. and puts us at odds with most of the world's peoples.

War has a momentum and a logic of its own that is not easily contained once it is set in motion. Vietnam taught us that. Things can spiral out of
control. Recent history proves that war does not bring stability, nor justice.

But many are asking: "If not by war, then how do we fight terrorism?" It is a fair question with no easy answers.

However, there are political and diplomatic means that could mobilize world opinion to isolate terrorists and bring them to justice. Terrorism is an international crime, which must be addressed by international bodies like
the United Nations and the World Court. The U.S. could take this case to these bodies.

Some may say that such an approach will take too long. But Bush admits that his war strategy will take a long time, too. Administration spokesman Ari Fleisher recently said that even if bin Laden were out of the picture today there would still be a war.

Negotiated peace agreements for "hot spots" round the world, such as the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, are real policy alternatives that would isolate terrorists and undermine terrorism's root causes.

We believe the Bush Administration has a hidden agenda for this war: control of Middle Eastern and Central Asian oil. After all, the
administration has close ties to the oil, gas and energy industries. And the history of U.S. foreign policy is still steeped in the Cold War period when, in the name of fighting communism, the CIA destabilized and often
overthrew progressive, elected governments in over 50 countries, including Afghanistan. The aim was not peace and democracy but making the world "safe" for U.S. corporate interests.

War has economic and social consequences. Racial profiling, attacks on civil liberties and democratic rights and bailouts of corporations are the Bush Administration's domestic program to "fight terrorism."
We need an international effort, not unilateral action, to end terrorism.
And to end it, the root causes must be considered. We would argue that capitalist exploitation, gross inequality, poverty and corporate plunder of the world's natural resources and labor provide the soil for anger and desperation. The struggle against terrorism is inseparable from the struggle for peace, justice and self-determination.

In the weeks ahead, we urge a national dialogue, a "teach-in" if you will, on alternatives to war, racism, and repression. The American people, as do all people, have a right to safety. The question is, will war and its consequences make the world safer?

After the September 11th tragedy, many of the family members of the victims spoke out for peace. The commitment of these families and millions more to finding peaceful political and diplomatic solutions to terrorism is an
important expression of American patriotism, as is the willingness to speak up and protect the Bill of Rights and the rights of minorities.

We refuse to let the Bush Adminstration and the ultra right define patriotism as war.

The Communist Party USA believes that in this new century, we must forever break the cycle of violence, so dominant in the last century, that has cost humanity dearly.

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От	Pout
К	Александр Снегов (09.10.2001 06:42:19)
Дата	09.10.2001 11:52:44

угрозы политической дестабилизации России всвязи с начавшейся войной(*)

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Нужна хорошая аналитика начавшегося процесса военной перестройки нового
мирового порядка. Мы рискуем проспать существенные моменты, которые
определят развитие в России в ближайшей перспективе. В СМИ, тем более в
зарубежных массовых"рупорах атлантизма", все более превалируют "давящие"
на Россию заказные материалы. Их много и они идут по нарастающей. А
здесь им по нарастающей отвечают разношерстные"рупоры либерализма"

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статейка Стивена Сестановича, он в Госдепе при Клинтоне отвечал за
Россию и СНГ. Конечно, это не мнение нынешней администрации, но
известно, что внешняя политика в США двухпартийная, особенно сейчас. Это
не какой-нибудь Бжезинский - только что рулил политикой США.

Условия, по сути, три
1. Сдать Чечню
2. Не трогать Грузию
3. Согласится с базами США в Средней Азии на долгое время.


http://www.inosmi.ru/2001/10/05/1002289660.html

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а вот по ПРО, тоже в ту же сторону

http://www.inosmi.ru/stories/2001/06/22/993220165/1002022749.html

("The Wall Street Journal" , США)

еще оттуда же

Г-ну Путину Запад по-прежнему нужен больше, чем он нужен Западу.

Редакционная статья
05 октября 2001
http://www.inosmi.ru/2001/10/05/1002272309.html
Оригинал публикации: From Russia With (Some) Love ("The Wall Street
Journal")
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"Антиатлантическую" аналитику по сабжу дают Дугин-Джемаль("Евразия")
Следует учесть, что Дугин с полгода назад занял пропутинскую позицию
и тсказать лоббирует в щелях околопрезидентского окружения свои позиции


Джемаль
http://www.stringer-agency.ru/020Gazeta/84_17/009Article/Default.asp

Дугин
http://arctogaia.org.ru/FORUMS/messages/47/1022.html

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Экспресс-анализ ОПОД "Евразия" наиболее существенных последствий начала
военной операции в Афганистане
1. Перспективы мира и нейтральности России в операции "Возмездие" ушли в
прошлое. Теперь мы имеем дело не начинающейся вот-вот войной, а с
начавшейся войной.
2. Геополитический характер события развернуто описан в 2 официальных
коммюнике ОПОД "Евразия", в выступлениях ее лидера А.Дугина (две
подробные пресс-конференции в пресс-центре МИР НОВОСТЕЙ, выступления на
ОРТ в программе "Времена" В.В.Познера, программе "Пресс-клуб" - РТР,
программе "Что делать?" Канал "Культура", в интервью ИМА-пресс, на
круглом столе в ЦОН МГУ). Все эти материалы есть (или будут в ближайшее
время) на сайте. Сам факт ракетно-бомбовых ударов ничего нового к уже
описанным сценариям и геополитическим последствиям не добавляет.
3. Сегодня ясно, что Россия не пошла на жесткий конфликт с США, пытаясь
встроиться в "коалицию Севера". Это ВРЕМЕННАЯ позиция, которая по
определению приведет к чему угодно, только не к тому, что
провозглашается российским руководством об "интеграции в стратегический
ареал западного мира". Это попросту невозможно. В реальности, даже чисто
теоретически, возможно следующее:
- резко ослабить свои геополитическии позиции в Средней Азии;
- попытаться проводить авангардную стратегию отрыва Европы от США (при
потере влияния на Юге и затяжной войне в Средней Азии это теряет всякий
смысл);
- войти в столкновение с США на следующем этапе (при сокращении своих
стратегических и дипломатических возможностей, причем в менее
благоприятной, чем еще вчера, ситуации);
- понизить роль России в "многополярном клубе";
- принять как неизбежность колоссальный урон национальной безопасности,
уже сегодня понесенный Россией;
- приблизиться к социально-политической катастрофе с неопределенным
исходом, но с явной перспективой ослабления позиций Президента, его
курса и его поддержки со стороны народа;
- столкнуться с "радикальным исламом" на новом уровне уже после того,
как он приобрел серьезный "геополитический статус".
Россия в этой ситуации в любом случае теряет. И очень многое.
4. То, что Запад будет всерьез считаться с РФ, есть либо вздорная
иллюзия, либо геополитическая диверсия. Военные действия США проводятся
с таким расчетом, чтобы рикошетом максимально ослабить Евразию. Не
понимать этого невозможно.
5. Скорее всего, в самое ближайшее время неуверенная позиция РФ в
поддержке США и Великобритании против талибов, приведет к глубокому
кризису российской политической власти. Мы ускоренными темпами
приблизились к пределам компромисса, заложенного в формуле: патриотизм +
либерализм. Либерализм сейчас пытается выступать со своей
геополитической программой (как при реформаторах ельцинского периода),
что входит в явное противоречие с патриотизмом. Только если либерализм
подчинен патриотизму и основанной на нем геополитике, его можно терпеть.
В противном случае, он фатально вредит Национальной Идее, становясь
атлантизмом.
6. Предыдущий пункт показывает кроме всего прочего достижение
критической точки в созревании определенности Президента в отношении
команды. Эта команда оказалась в решающий момент просто беспомощной, а
там где не беспомощной, то атлантистски ориентированной в стратегическом
смысле. Это не замедлит сказаться.
7. Дальнейшее развитие линии на стратегическую поддержку США приведет к
резкому падению рейтинга власти и оживлению оппозиции. Какой
оппозиции? -- Оппозиции разрушительной для России, но которая будет
рядиться в "патриотические" тоги. Так как ЛДПР и КПРФ пригодны только
для выпускания пара и служат более кремлевской администрации для
предотвращения появления реальной оппозиции, то здесь все будет
проходить в режиме контроля. Другое дело, что кризисом власти могут
воспользоваться ИНЫЕ силы, действительно дееспособные. Все по-настоящему
дееспособное имеет заокеанское происхождение в современной России.
Единственно, что отчасти дееспособно и относительно автономно -- централ
политическоцй власти -- Президент и его ближайшее окружение. Если эта
автономность не будет фундаментализироваться стройной и жесткой
евразийской геополитической линией, она пошатнется. Автоматически
усилится атлантистская оппозиция.
8. Оппозиция Президенту будет верстаться из различных сил: олигархи,
губернаторы и президенты национальных республик, недалекие
силовики-патриоты, группы "радикального ислама", и т.д. Эффективность
этой конструкции, направленной на распад России и отстранение от власти
Путина, безусловно, будет курироваться из-за рубежа. Нельзя исключить,
что все это будет приправленно фиктивным "евразийством". Березовский,
например, не случайно ведет активные консультации с А.В.Ниязовым,
которому помогают в Администрации Президента те люди, которые сохраняют
лояльность опальному Березовскому. С Лебедем схожий вариант уже
обкатывался.
9. Если события пойдут по такому сценарию: власть в России двинется к
Западу, национальный консенсус вокруг просвещенного Президента-патриота
начнет распадаться, скрепы страны ослабнут, оппозиция начнет набирать
силу (причем оппозиция эффективная и оперативная, не та, которую принято
называть этим именем), и все это на фоне результатов "либеральных
реформ" и падения цен на нефть, довольно близким результатом станет
колоссальный политический и социальный кризис, упадок стратегической
интеграции, повышенная вероятность распада России.
10. Единственным концептуальным выходом из ситуации является
синтезирование политической власти Президента с евразийской идеологией,
причем ортодоксальной и аутентичной со всей системой геополитических
импликаций. Все остальные модели развития событий будут катастрофичны.
11. Но даже если рассмотреть этот спасительный сценарий как возможный и
вероятный, все равно его осуществление на данном этапе представляется
более проблематичным и сложным, нежели до 11 сентября. Однако чем дальше
откладывать развитие ситуации в этом направлении, тем вся ситуация будет
становится опаснее. Показательно, что Запад как ни в чем не бывало
продолжает давить на Россию по поводу переговоров с Масхадовым. Завтра с
нами начнут обращаться еще смелее.
12. Истинный автор терактов в США ни у одного геополитически мыслящего
человека более не вызывает и тени сомнений. Линия гуманитарного
сострадания исчерпана. Следующая цель -- мы.
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