От Гриша
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Дата 18.03.2004 22:37:47
Рубрики Современность; Спецслужбы;

Кто там хотел помощи для Чечни?

В южной части Пакистана, пакистанцы окружили форт содержащий группу террористов охраняющих "высоковажную персону". Ведутся напряженные бои с использованием артилеррии и вертолетов. По словам пакистанского командуюшего войсками округа, охрана "обьекта" состоит не из арабов или афганцев а чеченцев.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114571,00.html

Pakistani officials said Thursday they have a "high-value target" in the war on terror surrounded near the Afghan border where a fierce gunfight has been underway for days.


Early reports suggested it may be Al Qaeda's No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri (search) but the person's identity remains uncertain.

Pakistani journalist Hamid Mir told Fox News that he had spoken over the phone with the commander of the operation in the area, and was told they were battling Chechen (search) resistance, not Arabs.

Mir said he had been in the area in recent days and had seen "a lot of dead bodies."

"I have talked to the commander," he said. "He said most of the people fighting are not Arabs, they are Chechens," adding that the Pakistani forces may have a Chechen leader cornered, not Al Qaeda chief Usama bin Laden or Zawahri.

Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf (search) said in a television interview he had spoken with the commander of Pakistani troops in the region. He said the commander reported "fierce resistance" from a group of fighters entrenched in fort-like buildings and that there were indications that a senior figure was surrounded.

"He's reasonably sure there's a high-value target there," Musharraf said.

Mansoor Ijaz, Fox News' Foreign Affairs Analyst, reported that Pakistani intelligence sources said it is "highly probable that the high value target" that has been surrounded is either bin Laden or al-Zawahri.

Pakistani troops and paramilitary forces using artillery and helicopter gunships launched a new assault Thursday against Al Qaeda and Taliban suspects in a tribal region near Afghanistan, two days after a fierce assault that left dozens dead.

The new push began in Azam Warsak, Shin Warsak and Kaloosha villages in South Waziristan (search), the tribal region that borders Afghanistan, said Brig. Mahmood Shah, the chief of security for the area.

Army spokesman Gen. Shaukat Sultan said there have been casualties in the new offensive, but he had no details of how many or on which side.

The operation follows a clash between security forces and suspected Taliban and Al Qaeda holdouts in a fortress-like compound in the village of Kaloosha, just miles from the border. Some 39 people — including 15 troops and 26 militants, died in the raid on Tuesday, the military said Thursday in a statement. Eighteen other suspects were captured.

The statement said most of those killed Tuesday were foreigners, but it gave no details of nationalities and acknowledged that only two of the bodies had been recovered. No senior Al Qaeda figures are believed to have been among those killed or captured.

One of the two dead militants whose bodies were recovered was a Chechen and the other was believed to be of Middle Eastern origin, a military official said on condition of anonymity.

In another part of the tribal region — North Waziristan (search) — attackers launched a rocket and fired gunshots at a Pakistan army post before dawn on Thursday, Sultan said. Two soldiers died and several were injured in the attack, according to an intelligence official who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

The official also said that assailants threw a hand grenade at an army truck heading to Miran Shah, the main town of North Waziristan,and that several soldiers were injured. But Sultan denied the incident occurred.

The fresh operation in South Waziristan began as U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell began talks with Pakistani leaders in the capital, Islamabad, on Thursday.

Powell was meeting with Musharraf, a key ally in the U.S.-led campaign against terrorism. They were expected to discuss the operation in Kaloosha, as well as U.S. efforts to track Al Qaeda and Taliban holdouts on the Afghan side of the border.

The aim of the operation is to "flush out foreign terrorists from Pakistani territory," Shah told The Associated Press from the northwestern city of Peshawar, a regional capital where he is based.

Early morning calls from mosques warned residents in Azam Warsak, Shin Warsak and Kaloosha to leave the area, apparently to give the troops more room to operate.

About a dozen helicopters buzzed over Wana, in South Waziristan, early Thursday, flying toward the operation zone about 6 miles to the west.

A convoy of army trucks carrying soldiers also passed Wana hours before it started. Later, when the operation began, mortar booms could be heard in the town, from the direction of the battle zone.

Interior Ministry spokesman Abdur Rauf Chaudhry said extra troops were dispatched in anticipation of the new offensive.

"Reinforcements have been sent to the area," Chaudhry told AP.

He said "a few" paramilitary troops are missing since the operation in Kaloosha on Tuesday, with rumors in the region that they may have been kidnapped by the suspected militants.

The raid in Kaloosha on Tuesday sparked outrage in the tribal region, which fiercely covets its autonomy and has resisted foreign intervention for centuries.

After the battle, attackers set fire to several military vehicles, some containing weapons and munitions.

U.S. forces in Afghanistan announced over the weekend the start of an operation — dubbed Mountain Storm — to capture terror fugitives, including Usama bin Laden and Taliban leader Mullah Omar.

On Monday, Musharraf promised to rid Pakistan's tribal areas of foreign terrorists. Pakistan's semiautonomous tribal regions border eastern and southern Afghanistan — the focus of operation Mountain Storm.

От А.Никольский
К Гриша (18.03.2004 22:37:47)
Дата 19.03.2004 02:07:00

прям как финны

видимо, рано или поздно любые исламские неместные и упорные при том боевики будут называться чеченцами, по аналогии с "финнами" на Восточном фронте. Любопытно, что наши в пропаганде таких упорных боевиков называют арабами и противопоставляют более податливым чеченцам.
С уважением, А.Никольский
От oleg100
К А.Никольский (19.03.2004 02:07:00)
Дата 19.03.2004 02:38:31

когда амеры брали Афган - там тоже были тяжелые бои в каком-то месте с

чеченцами - так передавалось мелким текстом, но v массовые новости слово "чеченцы" не попало, думаю и сейчас будет то же, т,к это разрушает нужный информационный штамп "плохих" и "хороших" парней - а над таким имиджами работают годами, что бы вбить иx в головы намертво. Чеченцы - это угнетенныe борцы за свободу от русского господства, им не место в Паке - обыватель будет сконфужен, а это не допустимо. Вот понаблюдаем как все окончится и будет отрапортовано..
Олег
От Igal
К oleg100 (19.03.2004 02:38:31)
Дата 19.03.2004 20:44:37

Re: когда амеры...


>чеченцами - так передавалось мелким текстом, но v массовые новости слово "чеченцы" не попало, думаю и сейчас будет то же, т,к это разрушает нужный информационный штамп "плохих" и "хороших" парней

Пардон, а что, foxnews это что-то вроде еженедельника Неделя Кирьят-Гад ?

С уважением,
Igal