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Jordan signs up for Javelin
DARREN LAKE JDW Staff Reporter
London

Jordan has become the first Middle East customer to sign up to purchase the Lockheed Martin/Raytheon Javelin top-attack anti-tank guided weapon (ATGW) system. Raytheon announced the deal on 11 January.

Jordan signed a letter of agreement with the US government in Amman on 26 December 2001. It is the second country outside the USA to procure the system; Lithuania signed a similar agreement on 17 December 2001 (Jane's Defence Weekly 16 January).

The agreement with Jordan is a further boost for the system, which is competing with the Israeli Rafael Armament Development Authority Gill/Spike ATGW in a number of other national procurement competitions. The sale will be conducted under the USA's Foreign Military Sales programme through the US Army, with the Lockheed Martin/Raytheon Joint Venture expecting to sign a contract worth some $12 million.

Under the deal, Jordan will receive more than 110 missiles and 30 command launch units (CLUs). The purchase also includes training devices, logistics support, associated equipment and training. Raytheon, which leads the Joint Venture programme, provides system engineering management and support and produces the CLU, missile guidance electronic unit and system software. Lockheed Martin provides missile engineering and production support, produces the missile seeker and performs missile all-up-round assembly.

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Lithuania becomes first export customer for Javelin
DARREN LAKE JDW Staff Reporter
London
Additional reporting GRZEGORZ HOLDANOWICZ JDW Correspondent
Warsaw

The Lithuanian Ministry of National Defence (MND) announced last month that it had signed an intergovernmental agreement with the USA for the Lockheed Martin/Raytheon Javelin top-attack anti-tank guided weapon (ATGW) system.

It is the first export order for Javelin and will be a significant boost for the joint venture, which has been competing in several ATGW competitions.In a deal worth Litas38.5 million ($9.6 million), Lithuania will buy an undisclosed number, believed to be some 10 launchers and 60 missiles, to be delivered by 2004.

However, an MND statement said it had asked the US government to explore ways to supply the systems by October 2002. The first unit to be equipped with the missiles is likely to be the Rukla-based Grand Duke Algirdas Motorised Infantry Battalion, which forms part of the Baltic Battalion now being reorganised under Danish supervision into a fully NATO-interoperable unit.

In May, the Finnish Army chose the Israeli Rafael Armament Development Authority Gill/Spike ATGW over Javelin and in June Javelin also lost in the Netherlands to Gill/Spike. The Dutch Ministry of Defence said it had chosen Gill for cost reasons.

The Norwegian Army announced last month that it would test the Gill/Spike and Javelin systems in early March (Jane's Defence Weekly 19 December 2001). The Gill/Spike and Javelin are also being assessed in competitions in the UK and Canada.

In a separate procurement, Lithuania signed a contract worth Litas75.1 million with EADS Defence and Civil Systems Division medium-range 3-D air-defence mobile radars and parts of EADS' Surface-to-Air Missile Operations Centre. The order is expected to be delivered between late 2003 and early 2004. If all options are exercised, the total contract value may reach $31 million.

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Norway to test Javelin and Gill/Spike systems
JOHN BERG JDW Correspondent
Oslo

The Norwegian Army will test fire the MBDA/Rafael Gill/Spike and Lockheed Martin/ Raytheon Javelin top- attack fire-and-forget anti-armour guided weapon (ATGW) systems in early March.

The Ministry of Defence (MoD) has allocated NKr1.22 billion ($137 million) to the programme in Norway's new defence plan. A recommendation for a selection of a system will be forwarded to the MoD in the third quarter of 2002, leading to a selection in early 2003. The contract will include logistics and training systems. Final deliveries are planned for 2007. The number of launchers and missiles are not specified.

The medium-range ATGW is intended to meet a requirement for a capability between the army's short-range systems, the Carl Gustaf 84mm recoilless rifle and the Eryx ATGW system, and the 3,750m Tube-launched, Optically-tracked, Wire-guided (TOW) missile which is used in the long-range anti-armour role. Currently, the service has no medium-range anti-armour system.

The test firings will be against retired tanks, both stationary and mobile, by remote control. Firings will be carried out from short range and up to the maximum range of the systems.

The army will not carry out any summer trials although hot-climate performance of new equipment is becoming of increasing interest because of Norway's commitment to international operations. The service has, however, reached an agreement to co-ordinate its testing and evaluations with the British Army's Light Forces Anti-Tank Guided Weapon System programme (Jane's Defence Weekly 10 October).

Norwegian representatives attended the UK Defence Procurement Agency's temperate weather trials in Canada in September and will also attend the cold-weather trials in February 2002.

A meeting this month will co-ordinate the two programmes, aiming at covering the widest possible spectrum of scenarios without test duplications.

Norway was previously an observer in the Finnish Army's medium-range ATGW programme, which resulted in the selection of the Rafael system (JDW 10 May 2000).

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UK set to test Gill/Spike Javelin anti-tank missiles
Christopher F Foss JDW Land Forces Editor
London

It has been confirmed that the UK's Defence Procurement Agency (DPA) is to buy quantities of the Israeli RAFAEL Armament Development Authority Gill/Spike and the US Lockheed Martin/Raytheon Systems Javelin medium-range anti-tank missiles for an extensive series of trials due to start in the coming months.

This was first revealed in Jane's Defence Weekly (JDW 20 December 2000). These are the only two contenders for the UK Light Forces Anti-Tank Guided Weapon (LFATGW) system, which will be issued to rapid reaction units such as the British Army's 16 Air Assault Brigade and 3 Commando Brigade Royal Marines and replace the current Euromissile MILAN.

The DPA awarded contracts worth around Ј3 million ($4.4 million) each to RAFAEL supported by Matra BAe Dynamics for the Gill/Spike and Raytheon/Lockheed Martin for the Javelin. Both missiles are in quantity production and are of the top-attack, 'fire and forget' type.

The contracts cover the supply of hardware and technical assistance for the assessment phase that will include handling trials, live firing tests in the UK and overseas, and simulation studies. The cold weather trials are expected to be in Canada or Norway as both of these countries have a requirement for a new 2,000m-range ATGW system.

It is expected that the chosen system will enter service in 2005. The ministry of defence added that "the winner will, in due course, be among candidates the MoD may consider to meet the needs of the army's mechanised and armoured infantry for a new anti-tank system to replace the existing MILAN". The operational needs stipulate that the crew of two must be capable of carrying the LFATGW firing post and two missiles for up to 20km.

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JANE'S DEFENCE WEEKLY - AUGUST 22, 2001

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Netherlands orders anti-tank guided weapons
CHRISTOPHER F FOSS JDW Land Forces Editor
London

The Netherlands Ministry of Defence has awarded a $150 million contract to the Rafael Armament Development Authority to supply the Gill anti-tank guided weapon (ATGW), following parliamentary approval of the selection.

Following a competition between the Gill and Lockheed Martin/ Raytheon Javelin top-attack ATGWs, the former was selected to replace the current Dragon ATGW system used by the Royal Netherlands Army and the Royal Netherlands Marine Corps (Jane's Defence Weekly 27 June 2001).

The contract covers the supply of 2,400 missiles and associated launchers, with first deliveries to take place in 18 months. The army's rapid- reaction forces and the marines will receive priority deliveries. It is expected that in the future additional orders will be placed for mechanised units.

While the Rafael Armament Development Authority is the overall prime contractor for this programme, a number of European companies will also be involved including Thales Netherlands, Diehl and STN Atlas of Germany.

The Netherlands is the second European country to adopt Gill. Finland selected the system last year after extensive trials with not only Gill/Spike and Javelin but also the Saab Bofors Dynamics Bill 2, EMDG TRIGAT-MR and Euromissile MILAN. Finland selected Spike 2.5 with a range of 2.5km (JDW 10 May 2000).

For the Finnish programme, EuroSpike is the prime contractor with STN Atlas being the leader of the consortium and supplying the launcher. Other companies include Diehl, which will supply the munition and Rheinmetall Weapons and Munitions the high-explosive anti-tank warhead.

The UK has also purchased quantities of Gill/Spike and Javelin for extensive trials that are now under way to select the Light Forces Anti-Tank Guided Weapon (LFATGW).

The LFATGW will be issued to rapid-reaction units such as 16 Air Assault Brigade and 3 Commando Brigade in the first phase. In the longer term the winner of this competition is also expected to replace the MILAN in remaining British Army units.

For the UK competition, MBDA (UK) is the prime contractor, having signed an agreement with the Rafael Armament and Development Authority for the UK and some other selected countries in Europe and elsewhere.

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JANE'S DEFENCE WEEKLY - JUNE 27, 2001

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The Netherlands selects Gill
JORIS JANSSEN LOK JDW Special Correspondent
The Hague

The Netherlands Ministry of Defence has selected the Israeli Rafael Armament Development Authority Gill for its medium-range anti-tank (MRAT) missile programme, senior officials have confirmed.

Although a formal announcement is yet to be made, it is believed that the procurement will be for about 2,400 missiles and 300 launcher posts, at a cost of around $225 million.

The long-overdue selection decision for Gill follows last year's decision to pull out of the European TRIGAT medium-range missile programme (Jane's Defence Weekly 13 September 2000).

Gill, a lightweight, 'fire and forget' weapon was selected over the Lockheed Martin Javelin for cost reasons. Officials claimed that both would meet the military requirements of the Netherlands armed forces.

In recent months the MRAT programme had run into political controversy concerning the opposition of left-wing parties to buying arms from Israel. Such a deal would give the 'wrong signal' at a time of escalating crisis in Israeli-Palestinian relations, it was said.

One industry source involved in the programme said that "heated debate" was expected in the Netherlands parliament, but that the Gill buy would eventually be ratified. If it is, it will be primarily Thales Nederland (formerly Thomson-CSF Signaal) that will benefit from the offset package associated with the order. The Dutch decision is the first selection of the Gill by a NATO member

The UK's Defence Procurement Agency is evaluating the Gill/Spike and the Javelin to meet the Light Forces Anti-Tank Guided Weapon requirement to equip rapid reaction units (JDW 14 February).


С уважением, Venik
От Observer
К Venik (25.03.2002 16:09:36)
Дата 25.03.2002 16:11:55

Финны тоже Джавелин покупают (-)
От ZULU
К Observer (25.03.2002 16:11:55)
Дата 25.03.2002 16:33:53

Благодарствую. А что там насчет финнов???

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Веник, спасибо большое. Займусь штудированием. Дело в том, что сейчес в Литве идет подковерная борьба за результат тендера на закупку ПЗРК - "Стингер" или "Мистраль".

МО нажимает на "Стингеры", которые собираеться покупать напрямую, без посредников.

Посредники и лоббисты, в свою очередь, тихо пропихивает "Мистрали" или что нибудь другое, лищ бы не "Стингеры".

В качестве аргумента в подковерных спорах используеться резyльтаты тендера на ПТРК (победил "Джевелин").

Утверждают, что, дескат, МО переплатил, к тому же, умные финны "Спайк" взяли. А я пытаюсь разобраться, кому по башkе навалять ;-))).

С уважением

ЗУЛУ
От Observer
К ZULU (25.03.2002 16:33:53)
Дата 25.03.2002 16:46:56

Вы правы!


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>Веник, спасибо большое. Займусь штудированием. Дело в том, что сейчес в Литве идет подковерная борьба за результат тендера на закупку ПЗРК - "Стингер" или "Мистраль".

>МО нажимает на "Стингеры", которые собираеться покупать напрямую, без посредников.

>Посредники и лоббисты, в свою очередь, тихо пропихивает "Мистрали" или что нибудь другое, лищ бы не "Стингеры".

>В качестве аргумента в подковерных спорах используеться резыльтаты тендера на ПТРК (победил "Джевелин").

>Утверждают, что, дескат, МО переплатил, к тому же, умные финны "Спайк" взяли. А я пытаюсь разобраться, кому по башке навалять ;-))).

>С уважением

>ЗУЛУ

Вы правы! Ошибся.
Джавелин был лучшим по результатам стрельб. В сумме же проиграл.

Финны теситровали Билль-2, ТРИГАТ, Гиль/Спайк и Джавелин 7-19 Февраля 1999.
Они выбирали ПТРК на дистанции до 2,500 м.

Решение было принято в Мае 2000. Победитель: Евро-Спайк.
От Venik
К ZULU (25.03.2002 16:33:53)
Дата 25.03.2002 16:41:19

насчет финнов

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Date Posted: 07 February 2001


Jane's World Armies 09

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Procurement Detail
General
The Finnish Army has recently acquired considerable weaponry and ammunition from Germany; most brigades are in good condition. What they lack is command and control systems and operational mobility, both areas that are receiving considerable current attention. Major investments will be made in these areas in the next five years, and also in electronic warfare and night-fighting capabilities. After the final air force Hornet delivery (and payment) in 2001, these areas will be the target of considerable investment.

The Chief of the Defence Staff, has expressed a desire for more helicopters. He asserts, "Finland, with its vast expanses of water and dense forests, is a place for helicopters not for tanks, so I would hope that we could increase our current fleet from under 10 to 20 or 30. We must, however, concentrate on being strong in certain key areas, as we cannot afford to buy equipment evenly across the board and will always have well-equipped and less well-equipped units. In future, our key area will be electronic warfare and, if we fail in that, we may fail in other things too."

GH 52 155 mm artillery purchase
The Finnish Defence Forces cancelled a planned FMk1 billion (US$145 million) order for a self-propelled artillery system from Patria Vammas of Finland in November 2000 and instead ordered nine towed 155mm GH 52 field guns for the army's high-readiness brigades. The latter contract to Patria is valued at FMk 40 million to 50 million.

The army, together with Patria Vammas as designated prime contractor, recently tested the German Krauss-Maffei Wegmann 155mm/52-cal tracked PzH 2000, the Slovakian 155mm/45-cal 8 Ч 8 Zuzana and the BAE Systems, Land and Naval Systems 155mm/52-cal tracked AS90 Braveheart in northern Finland.

Finland selects CV 9030 IFV
The Finnish government approved the Finnish Army's proposed US$176.2 million purchase of 57 CV 9030 infantry fighting vehicles (IFVs) from Patria Hдgglunds Oy in November 2000. The CV 9030 was one of four vehicles shortlisted to meet the army's requirement for 150 to 170 IFVs for its rapid reaction brigades.

Finland's Patria Industries will produce the 30mm armed turrets while Sweden's Hдgglunds Vehicle will be responsible for manufacturing the chassis and systems integration of the vehicles. Patria will conduct around 55 per cent of the total programme work. The IFVs are scheduled for delivery between 2002 and 2005.

Finland is the fourth country to order a derivative of the baseline CV 90 design. Norway, Sweden and Switzerland have already placed orders for more than 850 examples.

Advanced Mortar System
In October 2000 the Finnish Defence Forces received the first AMOS (Advanced Mortar System) FIN self-propelled twin-barrel 120mm mortar system from the Finnish-Swedish venture Patria Hдgglunds. Patria Vammas of Finland has developed the mortars and loading system, and Hдgglunds Vehicle of Sweden has carried out the turret design and systems integration. For Finland, the turret has been integrated on to a Patria wheeled Pasi XA-203 carrier (pictured).

The army will conduct a comprehensive test and manoeuvre programme on the system with the aim of putting it into use with the rapid reaction brigades, which are to be fielded in 2005-06. The headquarters of the Finnish Defence Forces will be responsible for the programme, which will continue until April 2001.

Pasi armoured fighting vehicles
Patria Vehicles will supply 48 Pasi wheeled armoured fighting vehicles for use by the Finnish Defence Forces' Pori Readiness Brigade under a contract worth US$34.5 million announced in October 2000. Most will be delivered in 2001.

The XA-200 is the latest production version of the Patria Vehicles XA series of 6 Ч 6 APC and will be the basis for all future production.

Spike ATGW
In May 2000 the Finnish Army selected the Israeli RAFAEL Armament Development Authority Spike system to meet its requirement for a medium-range anti-tank guided weapon (ATGW) system to equip its high-readiness brigades.

It is the first export success in Europe for the new Israeli ATGW. Detailed negotiations will now commence between Finland and STN ATLAS Elektronik to finalise the contract that is expected to be worth FMk200 million (US$30.6 million). No details of the number of weapons to be ordered have been released. Finnish industry will take part in the programme as part of the offset and this is expected to include Patria Finavitec.

The Spike bid was submitted by the German Euro-Spike consortium headed by STN ATLAS Elektronik and its parent company of Rheinmetall DeTec teamed with Diehl Stiftung & Company, Ammunition Division, and with the assistance of the RAFAEL Armament Development Authority. Five ATGWs were evaluated in combined Finnish/Norwegian army user trials in 1999. These were the Swedish Bofors Missiles BILL 2, Euromissile Dynamics Group TRIGAT Medium Range (TRIGAT-MR), Euromissile MILAN 3, US Lockheed Martin/Raytheon Systems Javelin and the Spike.

Armour upgrades
Rather than purchase new tanks, Finland instituted a programme to update existing T-55 MBTs to T-55M standard in early 1995. The T-55M incorporates a range of improvements, from a new gunner's sight with a laser range-finder to new smoke grenade dischargers. Side skirts are added, a new NSV machine gun is mounted on the turret and extra stowage is provided on the turret sides.

Russian SAM Delivery
During February 1997, Russia delivered the first battalion of 9K37 Buk-1M (NATO SA-11 `Gadfly') low- to high-altitude self-propelled surface-to-air missile systems to the Finnish armed forces. The equipment is being delivered in part payment for the FMk5.5 billion (US$1.6 billion) debt which Russia owes Finland. The two governments have agreed that FMk1 billion will be paid by the transfer of defence equipment. Russia plans to deliver equipment for another two battalions in late 1997. The SA-11 will replace the SA-3 currently deployed around the Helsinki area.

Increased Mineclearing Capabilities
The Finnish MoD ordered 10 Patria Oy RA-140 DS 4 Ч 4/3850 mineclearing vehicles from Finnish manufacturer Patria Oy in January 1997. This is part of an option to buy 20 vehicles, six of which have already been acquired. They will be used for training and on international peacekeeping duties.

Finnish-Swedish Helicopter Plans
Finnish Chief of Defence General Gustav Hдgglund has confirmed his support for the possible joint procurement of helicopters with Sweden. He said that as Sweden would also be in the market for helicopters after 2000, it could be a fruitful method of co-operation.

A Finnish government committee report on helicopter procurement, published in March 1997, found that about 50 aircraft would be needed between 2000 and 2004. A sum of FMk3 billion to 4 billion (US$600 billion to US$800 billion) would be allocated to the purchase. Finland would be in the market for a combination of transport and attack helicopters or a multipurpose type. The report emphasised the need for more Finnish-Swedish security co-operation.

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BRIEFS - Javelin support contract awarded
The US Army Aviation and Missile Command, Redstone Arsenal, Alabama, has awarded Raytheon Lockheed Martin Javelin Joint Venture a US$7.58 million modification to existing contract DAAH01-01-C-0095 for interim contract support for Javelin missile systems. This work will be carried out in Tucson, Arizona, (65%), and Orlando, Florida (35%), and is expected to be completed by 30 June 2003.


С уважением, Venik
От ZULU
К Venik (25.03.2002 16:41:19)
Дата 25.03.2002 17:08:55

Правильно ли я понимаю,


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>Финниш индустры вилл таке парт ин тхе программе ас парт оф тхе оффсет анд тхис ис еxпецтед то инцлуде Патриа Финавитец.

что финны выбрали "Спайк" потому, что получили предложение производителя принят участие в программе и (или) что страна - продавец тоже у них что то купит??

С уважрнием

ЗУЛУ
От Observer
К ZULU (25.03.2002 17:08:55)
Дата 25.03.2002 17:19:31

Ре: Правильно ли...



>Привет всем

>>Финниш индустры вилл таке парт ин тхе программе ас парт оф тхе оффсет анд тхис ис еxпецтед то инцлуде Патриа Финавитец.
>
>что финны выбрали "Спайк" потому, что получили предложение производителя принят участие в программе и (или) что страна - продавец тоже у них что то купит??

>С уважрнием

>ЗУЛУ

На этот раз проверился!
Действительно в контракте содержится обьязательcтво промышленного сотрудничества германских предприятий (не указаны) с "Patria Finavitec"

Источник: "Ruotuvдki" 10/2000 18.5.2000
От Observer
К Observer (25.03.2002 17:19:31)
Дата 25.03.2002 17:29:39

Источник - Финская армейская газета. (-)
От ZULU
К Observer (25.03.2002 17:29:39)
Дата 25.03.2002 18:02:33

Еще раз спасибо и еще вопросик

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А эта финская военная газета, она что - по аглицки? Может в сети есть?

С уважением



ЗУЛУ
От Observer
К ZULU (25.03.2002 18:02:33)
Дата 25.03.2002 18:05:55

К сожалению нет. Вот она: http://www.mil.fi/ruotuvaki/ (-)
От Vadim
К Observer (25.03.2002 18:05:55)
Дата 25.03.2002 19:56:17

Ре: К сожалению...

Приветствую

Вопрос - это как понимать?

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Defence Systems Daily
Last Updated: 5 February 2002
Western European Ownership Jigsaw

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UK Light Forces Anti-Tank Guided Weapon Requirement,

Competing Teams:

Javelin Team

Lockheed Martin (US)
Raytheon (US)

Gil Spike Team

MBDA (France/UK/Italy)
Rafael Armaments Authority (Israel)

http://defence-data.com/current/pagerip1.htm
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Каким образом в "команде" "Спайка" отсутствует Германия, и что там делает, к примеру, Франция?
От Stalker
К Vadim (25.03.2002 19:56:17)
Дата 25.03.2002 23:38:58

Евроспайк

Здравствуйте

>Gil Spike Team

>MBDA (France/UK/Italy)
>Rafael Armaments Authority (Israel)

> http://defence-data.com/current/pagerip1.htm
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>Каким образом в "команде" "Спайка" отсутствует Германия, и что там делает, к примеру, Франция?

Представляет собой Рафаэлевский "Спайк", производимый в Германии. Именно с прицелом на продажу в Европе. И так-же взаимозаменим с "Гилем" - разница только в наведении - у "Спайка" по оптоволокну, а у "Гиля" - комбинированное, оптическое или ИК

С уважением
От Licorne
К Observer (25.03.2002 16:11:55)
Дата 25.03.2002 16:28:26

Re: Финны тоже...

А что такое top atack? Атакующий сверху или атака "высшего класса" ?
От Observer
К Licorne (25.03.2002 16:28:26)
Дата 25.03.2002 16:30:13

По моему атакующий сверху (-)