От Олег К
К knight777
Дата 15.03.2002 18:45:13
Рубрики Современность; Локальные конфликты; Политек;

Re: Австралийский спецназ

Пол Реттер сообщил, что почти все 150 членов австралийского спецназа завершили участие в операции "Анаконда" и вернулись на свою базу в Кандагаре. Ни один из австралийцев не был убит или ранен.

Из этой шарады вполне понятно, что кто то или дезертировал или в плен попал или еще есть какие то варианты?

http://www.voskres.ru/
От Vadim
К Олег К (15.03.2002 18:45:13)
Дата 16.03.2002 07:56:33

Ре: Австралийский спецназ - конспирологам

Приветствую

Полное сообщение и еще, и еще, и еще.

Если в стране всего несколько regiments, несколько сот человек СпН, SAS и нек. другие, и кто-то действительно lost in action, кто бы это смог скрыть?

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Aussies under fire
AAP
15mar02

AUSTRALIAN crack troops killed at least 10 al-Qaeda and Taliban forces during a series of firefights in the final throes of Operation Anaconda.

The defence department said today SAS troops were engaged in a series of firefights against retreating enemy forces in the past 48 hours.

Brigadier Paul Retter confirmed almost all of Australia's 150 SAS troops now in Afghanistan had pulled out of Operation Anaconda and returned to their base at Kandahar. (So what? - V.)

He said the troops would be repairing some of their equipment and coming to terms with a hectic three months that included a series of sharp firefights in the past two days.

"Over the past 48 hours our Australian special forces continued their mission centred on conducting cut-off operations against enemy forces attempting to escape the battle area through the southern flank," he told reporters.

"These actions were successful, and resulted in numerous enemy troops being killed."

Brigadier Retter said he could not give an exact number of enemy troops killed, but added it was at least 10.

No Australian troops were either killed or injured in the numerous skirmishes.

Apart from their efforts to stop fleeing enemy troops, the SAS troops continued to direct coalition air forces against al-Qaeda and Taliban forces.

Brigadier Retter said the troops would now get some well-earned rest in Kandahar before they were replaced by another 150 SAS personnel after Easter.

He said apart from repairing their equipment, the troops would go through a series of intensive briefings on their experiences.

Information gleaned from the briefings will go to the troops set to replace them, and to other coalition forces.

"These back briefs are critical in capturing the lessons learned from the recent operation that can be used to assist us in preparing for subsequent operations," he said.

The troops, who have been serving in Afghanistan since December, will also have psychological support once they return to Australia.

A group of RAAF personnel today flew out from the Richmond air base near Sydney for the Manas air base in Kyrgyzstan.

The personnel are the forward party for two Boeing 707 air-to-air refuellers which will supply fuel to all coalition forces.

The first 707 will head out early next week, with the second to follow soon after.

Meanwhile, NSW Premier Bob Carr has farewelled a group of visiting New York firefighters and police officers who had spent a holiday in the state.

The emergency service personnel had been in the frontline when the World Trade Centre was destroyed by terrorist attacks on September 11.

Mr Carr said he wished the 27 visitors and their families, who had been guests of the state government, would return soon.

"Today is a sad occasion on one level because we say goodbye to our friends of our city and our city's people," he said.

"It was our honour to give them a warm welcome ... they have always been welcome."

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,3956009%255E2,00.html
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Australian special forces pull out of eastern Afghanistan

Australian special forces troops involved in operation Anaconda in eastern Afghanistan are pulling out, as the battle against the Taliban and Al Quaeda forces winds down.

Brigadier Paul Retter says the troops will de-brief and rest in the southern city of Kandahar ahead of their return to Australia in a few weeks.

Earlier in the campaign, the Australians helped save stranded US soldiers after a helicopter crash in which a number of Americans were killed.

Brigadier Retter says the troops have killed a number of enemy soldiers in the latest operation, as Coalition forces have pushed the enemy from the north of the battle area:

"There has been a natural tendency by the enemy, it would appear, to try and exfiltrate out of the battle area to the south. Now the Special Forces we've had in place have been in that location, designed to identify those enemy forces trying to relocate and to destroy them, either through airstrike or through direct weapon action."

16/03/2002 00:03:33 | ABC Radio Australia News
http://www.abc.net.au/asiapacific/news/GoAsiaPacificBNA_505717.htm

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Fri, Mar 15 2002 8:39 PM AEDT


SAS troops in training [file photo]

Aussie troops withdraw as operation winds up

Australian SAS troops are withdrawing as operation Anaconda winds up in Afghanistan after a series of skirmishes in which several enemy soldiers were killed.

Brigadier Paul Retter says there were no Australian casualties and the soldiers are returning to Kandahar.

He says the role of the Australians has been to intercept enemy forces as they attempted to flee the battle area to the south of the country.

"In the past few days these actions involved direct actions, directing air strikes, direct fire," Brigadier Retter said.

"These actions were successful and have resulted in numerous enemy being killed."

Brigadier Retter says the troops will de-brief and rest in Kandahar ahead of their return to Australia in a few weeks.

Earlier in the campaign, the Australians helped save stranded US soldiers after a helicopter crash in which a number of Americans were killed.

http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:vdCR44fDB-YC:www.abc.net.au/news/2002/03/item20020315075436_1.htm
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От Олег К
К Vadim (16.03.2002 07:56:33)
Дата 16.03.2002 12:44:42

Ре: Австралийский спецназ...


>Приветствую

>Полное сообщение и еще, и еще, и еще.

>Если в стране всего несколько regiments, несколько сот человек СпН, SAS и нек. другие, и кто-то действительно lost in action, кто бы это смог скрыть?

1. Здесь если я не ошибаюсь русский форум, поэтому если у Вас есть желание что либо мне сообщить постарайтесь писать по русски. Чтение по английски для меня требует дополнительных затрат труда и времени.

2. Обсуждать кто бы как бы и зачем бы мог бы чего бы скрыть бы мне не интересно.
Это уже здесь обсуждали раз пятьсто не меньше, в результате обсуждений образовалось два лагеря - одни считают что скрывать могут, другие что никогда и не при каких обстоятельствах этого не бывает. Дальшнейшее обсуждение в данном направлении смысла не имеет.
От Vadim
К Олег К (16.03.2002 12:44:42)
Дата 17.03.2002 12:33:11

Ре: Австралийский спецназ...

Приветствую


А теперь попробуйте сформулировать, что же вас все-таки интересует, а то если просуммировать что вам не подxодит..

Если вас не устраивает чтение по английски, не читайте, пользуйтесь перепевами, кто вас неволит.

А перевод - это доп. затраты времени для меня, и вобще см. п.1, что же все-таки интересует?
От Олег К
К Vadim (17.03.2002 12:33:11)
Дата 17.03.2002 13:12:10

Ре: Австралийский спецназ...


>Приветствую


>А теперь попробуйте сформулировать, что же вас все-таки интересует, а то если просуммировать что вам не подxодит..

Попробуйте почитать мое начальное сообщение.


>Если вас не устраивает чтение по английски, не читайте, пользуйтесь перепевами, кто вас неволит.

>А перевод - это доп. затраты времени для меня, и вобще см. п.1, что же все-таки интересует?
 http://www.voskres.ru/
От Vadim
К Vadim (16.03.2002 07:56:33)
Дата 16.03.2002 08:12:32

Ре:

Приветствую

Вот еще, мельбурнская The Age:

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SAS betters Al-Qaeda forces
March 15 2002

Australian soldiers have killed at least 10 al-Qaeda and Taliban fighters in the war on terror, a defence spokesman said today.

Brigadier Paul Retter said Australia's SAS troops had been engaged in a series of firefights with retreating enemy forces as part of Operation Anaconda.

He said no Australian troops had been killed or injured.

"We have by all reports killed a number of enemy forces without sustaining any casualties," he told reporters.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/03/15/1015909900266.html
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А вдове погибшего PM лично выразил соболезнования, но это конечно не в счет, "кругом враги", врут как привыкли.

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PM warns of casualties as military steps up Afghan ops
CANBERRA, March 12 AAP|Published: Tuesday March 12, 7:27 PM

Prime Minister John Howard today warned of more possible casualties as US President George W Bush praised Australia's support for the war on terror.

In a ceremony marking the six-month anniversary of the September 11 terror strikes, President Bush talked of the special bond between Australia and his country.

He also paid tribute to Australia's only casualty of the Afghan campaign so far, 33-year old SAS sergeant Andrew Russell, who was killed in Afghanistan last month when his vehicle struck a land mine.

"He left behind his wife Kylie and their daughter Leisa, just 11 days-old," President Bush said. "This young man and many like him have not let us down."

President Bush used Australia's commitment and sacrifice as an example to others of what was expected as the ADF prepared to step up operations in and around Afghanistan.

With SAS troops already operating against al-Qaeda rebels in the mountainous Shahi valley, defence authorities revealed an Australian air force officer was directing air strikes from neighbouring Kyrgyzstan.

Defence spokesman Brigadier Paul Retter said the RAAF officer was based at Manas air base, from where US aircraft operate in support of coalition troops battling Taliban and al-Qaeda forces.

As the government unveiled an agreement with the Kyrgyz government clearing the way for more Australian forces, the defence department refused to confirm the pending departure of two Boeing 707 air-to-air refuelling tankers.

But Defence Minister Robert Hill said the tankers, which Mr Howard promised to the coalition last year, would deploy soon.

"The government is expecting to deploy two B707 air-to-air refuelling aircraft also to the zone in the near future," he told the Senate.

Four FA-18 fighter jets are already patrolling the US resupply base on Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean, but the 707s remain on standby at their base at Richmond, outside Sydney.

Brigadier Retter said Australian SAS forces in south-east Afghanistan were continuing their involvement in Operation Anaconda, but were not replacing US mountain troops rotating out of the battlefield.

Mr Howard said he could not rule out being asked to contribute troops to a wider campaign beyond Afghanistan.

"If any such request was forthcoming, then it would be looked at on its own merits at the time," a spokesman quoted Mr Howard as telling a meeting of coalition MPs and senators.

He said the action in Afghanistan could lead to more casualties.

"There could be other lives lost - we're involved in a real military action," he was quoted as saying.

Mr Howard had also spoken to Sgt Russell's widow Kylie to express condolences.

The government, meanwhile, introduced new laws to combat terrorism, making it an official crime punishable by life imprisonment.

The bills also include amendments to treason laws, and put in place a convention against terrorist financing and terror bombings.

But Attorney-General Daryl Williams said the government was still considering controversial laws enhancing ASIO's interrogation powers.

By Rob Taylor and Max Blenkin

http://www.theage.com.au/breaking/2002/03/12/FFXLFZP8XUC.html
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От Kadet
К Олег К (15.03.2002 18:45:13)
Дата 15.03.2002 23:06:23

Ре: Австралийский спецназ


>Из этой шарады вполне понятно, что кто то или дезертировал или в плен попал или еще есть какие то варианты?

Ясен перец, всего у Австралийской армии 150 спецназовцев, почти все участвовали в Анаконде. Чего еще?
От Олег К
К Kadet (15.03.2002 23:06:23)
Дата 15.03.2002 23:12:54

Ре: Австралийский спецназ



>>Из этой шарады вполне понятно, что кто то или дезертировал или в плен попал или еще есть какие то варианты?
>
>Ясен перец, всего у Австралийской армии 150 спецназовцев, почти все участвовали в Анаконде. Чего еще?

Сообщение перечитайте. А потом будем выяснять кто чего недопонял.

PS меня совершенно не интересует численность австралийской армии.

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От Artur Zinatullin
К Олег К (15.03.2002 18:45:13)
Дата 15.03.2002 18:54:04

Re: Австралийский спецназ

Олег К wrote Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:45:13 +0300:

> Из этой шарады вполне понятно, что кто то или дезертировал
> > или в плен попал или еще есть какие то варианты?
Или остался в поле, воевать дальше.

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От Олег К
К Artur Zinatullin (15.03.2002 18:54:04)
Дата 15.03.2002 19:07:08

Re: Австралийский спецназ


>Олег К wrote Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:45:13 +0300:

>> Из этой шарады вполне понятно, что кто то или дезертировал
>> > или в плен попал или еще есть какие то варианты?
>Или остался в поле, воевать дальше.

У австралийского спецназа следовательно и один в поле воин? Бросили товарища что ли?


http://www.voskres.ru/
От Artur Zinatullin
К Олег К (15.03.2002 19:07:08)
Дата 18.03.2002 12:25:33

Re: Австралийский спецназ

> У австралийского спецназа следовательно и один в поле воин? Бросили товарища что ли?
В отхожее место они тоже все вместе ходят?
Если, например, осталась пара-тройка офицеров
понаблюдать за ходом операци, это бросили товарища?
Ну что за странности говорите?

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От Гришa
К Олег К (15.03.2002 19:07:08)
Дата 15.03.2002 19:19:15

А где написано что один? (-)
От Олег К
К Гришa (15.03.2002 19:19:15)
Дата 15.03.2002 19:44:53

Ну ладно - двоих бросили. (-)
От Гришa
К Олег К (15.03.2002 19:44:53)
Дата 15.03.2002 19:49:30

Бросить можно и роту. (-)
От Олег К
К Гришa (15.03.2002 19:49:30)
Дата 15.03.2002 20:29:17

Что ж тогда интересно мне изнать означает почти все? (-)
От Гришa
К Олег К (15.03.2002 18:45:13)
Дата 15.03.2002 18:47:00

Остались выполнять задание. (-)