От Robert
К All
Дата 01.08.2006 17:26:19
Рубрики Современность;

Вроде бы серьезно болен Фидель Кастро

Информация от флоридскиx кубинскиx эмигрантов. Власть якобы временно передана Раулю Кастро.

ОБС в смысле не подтверждено вроде никем, но слуx очень устойчивый и громкий.
От Random
К Robert (01.08.2006 17:26:19)
Дата 02.08.2006 12:40:03

Сегодня утром опроверг. Встречался с народом, выглядел нормально (-)
От Александр Стукалин
К Random (02.08.2006 12:40:03)
Дата 02.08.2006 20:03:39

Кто сегодня утром встречался с народом? (-)
От Random
К Александр Стукалин (02.08.2006 20:03:39)
Дата 03.08.2006 11:35:58

(Уже вчера) по телеку показывали Фиделя

Он обнимал девочку, грозил пальцем мировой буржуазии и говорил, что нагнетание страстей вокруг его якобы болезней на руку американским империалистам. По ходу это была старая запись.
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Счастье - когда тебя понимают. А сделать тебе ничего не могут..
От Александр Стукалин
К Random (03.08.2006 11:35:58)
Дата 03.08.2006 12:54:24

Вот-вот...

>По ходу это была старая запись.
Именно...
От В. Кашин
К Robert (01.08.2006 17:26:19)
Дата 01.08.2006 21:02:44

Не вроде бы, а серьезно

Добрый день!
Ему сделана операция на кишечнике. А для 80-летнего человека любая операция - серьезна и опасна.
С уважением, Василий Кашин
От Геннадий Нечаев
К В. Кашин (01.08.2006 21:02:44)
Дата 02.08.2006 08:12:16

Re: Не вроде...

>Добрый день!
>Ему сделана операция на кишечнике. А для 80-летнего человека любая операция - серьезна и опасна.
>С уважением, Василий Кашин

Тем более - на кишечнике.
От Расстрига
К Robert (01.08.2006 17:26:19)
Дата 01.08.2006 18:48:58

Амеры уж решили что не жив курилка

обращение к народу грят больно странное.

-- Даже если Вас съели, всегда остается два выхода.
От Владимир Савилов
К Robert (01.08.2006 17:26:19)
Дата 01.08.2006 17:59:26

Re: на операцию ложится, потому и передал полномочия (-)
От А.Никольский
К Владимир Савилов (01.08.2006 17:59:26)
Дата 01.08.2006 18:02:15

ЕБН тоже Стаканычу так передавал при шунтировании (-)
От val462004
К А.Никольский (01.08.2006 18:02:15)
Дата 01.08.2006 23:26:29

Re: А чемоданчик Колю? (-)
От А.Никольский
К val462004 (01.08.2006 23:26:29)
Дата 02.08.2006 18:04:38

и чемоданчик ему же

ЕБН потом оччень красочно это вспоминал - видит после операции Стаканыча, говорить пока не может, но очень хочет все равно сказать и сигнализирует глазами - отдай чемоданчик
С уважением, А.Никольский
От Alex Medvedev
К А.Никольский (01.08.2006 18:02:15)
Дата 01.08.2006 18:03:53

Может его опять американцы траванули?

а то как то странно совпало -- недавно денег ему на поминки выделили и тут же Фидель в больнице...
От Лейтенант
К Alex Medvedev (01.08.2006 18:03:53)
Дата 01.08.2006 18:41:07

Может они просто раньше всех про состояние здоровья узнали? (-)
От Андю
К Robert (01.08.2006 17:26:19)
Дата 01.08.2006 17:58:40

Дык, хранцузы ещё утром балаболили. Мол, "большое удивление вызвало" и пр.

Мадам э Месьё,

Старенький стал дядя Федя "Максимо", надо подлечиться. Иначе -- муэрте, и социализм не поможет.

Счастье, это когда у тебя все дома (не моё), Андрей.
От Eugene
К Андю (01.08.2006 17:58:40)
Дата 02.08.2006 07:54:53

Хранцузы - они такие... ;-)

>Старенький стал дядя Федя "Максимо", надо подлечиться. Иначе -- муэрте, и социализм не поможет.
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Ясир наш, Арафат, летал к ним во Хранцию подлечится. Тзохе кровотечение в кишечнике было. Ну и того, муэрте... :))

С уважением, Евгений.
От Гриша
К Robert (01.08.2006 17:26:19)
Дата 01.08.2006 17:54:00

Все подтверждено

>Информация от флоридскиx кубинскиx эмигрантов. Власть якобы временно передана Раулю Кастро.

>ОБС в смысле не подтверждено вроде никем, но слуx очень устойчивый и громкий.

Ailing Castro Gives Temporary Power to Brother
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 8:04 a.m. ET

HAVANA (AP) -- Little was known of Fidel Castro's condition Tuesday after he underwent an operation and temporarily turned over the Cuban presidency to his brother Raul, ushering in a period of uncertainty at home and celebrations by his enemies abroad.

The surprise announcement that Castro had been operated on to repair a ''sharp intestinal crisis with sustained bleeding'' stunned Cubans on the island and in exile, and marked the first time that Castro, two weeks away from 80th birthday, had relinquished power in 47 years of absolute rule.

The news came Monday night in a statement read on state television by his secretary Carlos Valenciaga. The message said Castro's condition was apparently due to stress from a heavy work schedule during recent trips to Argentina and eastern Cuba. He did not appear on the broadcast.

Castro, who took control of Cuba in 1959, resisted repeated U.S. attempts to oust him and survived communism's demise elsewhere, said he was temporarily handing over the presidency and the leadership of Cuba's Communist Party to his brother, Raul.

Raul Castro, Cuba's defense minister who turned 75 in June, also did not appear on television and made no statement on his own. For decades the constitutional successor to his brother, Raul Castro has assumed a more public profile in recent weeks.

Fidel Castro last appeared in public Wednesday as he marked the 53rd anniversary of his July 26 barracks assault that launched the revolution. The Cuban leader seemed thinner than usual and somewhat weary during a pair of long speeches in eastern Cuba.

''The operation obligates me to undertake several weeks of rest,'' Castro's letter read. Extreme stress ''had provoked in me a sharp intestinal crisis with sustained bleeding that obligated me to undergo a complicated surgical procedure.''

The calm delivery of the announcement appeared to signal that there would be an orderly succession should Fidel become permanently incapacitated.

Cuban exiles celebrated in the streets of Miami, but Havana's streets were quiet overnight as Cubans awaited further word on Castro's condition.

It was unknown when or where the surgery took place, or where Castro was recovering.

Ongoing intestinal bleeding can be serious and potentially life-threatening, said Dr. Stephen Hanauer, gastroenerology chief at the University of Chicago hospitals. He said it was difficult to deduce the cause of Castro's bleeding without knowing what part of the digestive tract was affected.

Ulcers are a common cause of bleeding in the stomach or upper intestine, while a condition called diverticulosis also can provoke bleeding in the lower intestine, especially in people over age 60, said Hanauer. He said this condition involves weakened spots in the intestinal lining that form pouches, which can become inflamed and provoke bleeding.

Fidel seemed optimistic of recovery, asking that celebrations scheduled for his 80th birthday on Aug. 13 be postponed until Dec. 2, the 50th anniversary of Cuba's Revolutionary Armed Forces.

With Havana's streets calm, an electronic news ticker at the U.S. diplomatic mission provided the only clue that something dramatic had occurred inside Cuba's government: ''All Cubans, including those under the dictatorship, can count on our help and support. We respect the wishes of all Cubans.''

Waiters at a popular cafe in Old Havana were momentarily stunned by the news, but quickly returned to work.

''He'll get better, without a doubt,'' said Agustin Lopez, 40. ''There are really good doctors here, and he's extremely strong.''

But Martha Beatriz Roque, a leading Cuban government opponent in Havana, said she believed Castro must be gravely ill to have stepped aside -- even temporarily.

''No one knows if he'll even be alive Dec. 2 when he's supposed to celebrate his birthday,'' she said in a telephone interview. She said opposition members worried they could be targeted for repression during a government change -- especially if authorities fear civil unrest.

White House spokesman Peter Watkins said U.S. authorities were monitoring the situation: ''We can't speculate on Castro's health, but we continue to work for the day of Cuba's freedom.''

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, Castro's strongest international ally, was the first foreign leader to react to the news, expressing his distress during a visit to Vietnam. He said he called the Cuban leader's office after hearing the news.

''Waking up this morning and receiving that news, you may see what feeling one would have toward a good friend,'' Chavez said Tuesday morning. ''When there is such an announcement, it's worrisome.''

''We wish President Fidel Castro will recover rapidly,'' Chavez said. ''Viva Fidel Castro.''

Across the Florida straits in Miami, exiles waved Cuban flags on Little Havana's Calle Ocho, shouting ''Cuba! Cuba! Cuba!'' as drivers honked their horns. Over nearly five decades, hundreds of thousands of Cubans have fled Castro's rule, many of them settling in Miami.

Castro has been in power since the Jan. 1, 1959 triumph of the armed revolution that drove out dictator Fulgencio Batista. He has been the world's longest-ruling head of government and his ironclad rule has ensured Cuba's place among the world's five remaining communist countries, along with China, Vietnam, Laos and North Korea.

Castro resisted U.S. demands for multiparty elections and an open economy and insisted his socialist system would long outlive him.

The son of a prosperous plantation owner, Castro's official birthday is Aug. 13, 1926, although some say he was born a year later.

Talk of Castro's mortality was taboo until June 23, 2001, when he fainted during a speech in the sun. Although Castro quickly recovered, many Cubans understood for the first time that their leader would eventually die.

Castro shattered a kneecap and broke an arm when he fell after a speech on Oct. 20, 2004, but laughed off rumors about his health, most recently a 2005 report he had Parkinson's disease.

But the Cuban president also said he would not insist on remaining in power if he ever became too sick to lead: ''I'll call the (Communist) Party and tell them I don't feel I'm in condition ... that please, someone take over the command.''
От Robert
К Robert (01.08.2006 17:26:19)
Дата 01.08.2006 17:30:54

Нашел откуда ноги растут

Было выступление по кубинскому государственному телевизионному каналу. Во флориде его кубинцы смотрят.

The news came Monday night in a statement read live on state television by his secretary Carlos Valenciaga. Castro did not appear on the broadcast.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,206483,00.html
От Геннадий Нечаев
К Robert (01.08.2006 17:30:54)
Дата 02.08.2006 08:10:10

Смотрите кубинское ТВ не только во флориде (ссылка)

http://www.digiradio.ch/radiocuba/ - я в Москве все неплохо просматриваю (LAN 512 Kb). Рекомендую Cubavisión Internacional