Re: Я бы...
>Имеем:
>С одной стороны: "Рассматривая вопрос об СС, Трибунал включает сюда... членов "общих СС", войск СС..."
>Вроде как все понятно. Войска СС - тоже объявлены преступными.
>И в тоже время: "Трибунал объявляет преступной согласно определению Устава группу, состоявшую из тех лиц, которые были официально приняты в члены СС И(!!!) перечислены в предыдущем параграфе".
Вот английский вариант:
Conclusions: The SS was utilised for the purposes which were criminal under the Charter involving the persecution and extermination of the Jews, brutalities and killings in concentration camps, excesses in the administration of occupied territories, the administration of the slave labour programme and the mistreatment and murder of prisoners of war. The defendant Kaltenbrunner was a member of the SS implicated in these activities. In dealing with the SS the Tribunal includes all persons who had been officially accepted as members of the SS including the members of the Allgemeine SS, members of the Waffen SS, members of the SS Totenkopf Verbaende and the members of any of the different police forces who were members of the SS. The Tribunal does not include the so-called SS riding units. The Sicherheitsdienst des Reichsfuehrer SS (commonly known as the SD) is dealt with in the Tribunal's Judgment on the Gestapo and SD.
>Т.е. нужно быть членом СС и например, служить в войсках СС. А как нам пояснил уважаемый Волк, далеко не все лица служившие в войсках СС были членами этой организации...
Tribunal declares to be criminal within the meaning of the Charter the group composed of those persons who had been officially accepted as members of the SS as enumerated in the preceding paragraph who became or remained members of the organisation with knowledge that it was being used for the commission of acts declared criminal by Article 6 of the Charter or who were personally implicated as members of the organisation in the commission of such crimes, excluding, however, those who were drafted into membership by the State in such a way as to give them no choice in the matter, and who had committed no such crimes.
http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/imt/proc/judorg.htm#ss
>Именно этот союз "и" не дает мне покоя... Он объеденяет два обязательных условия: первое - членство в СС, второе - нахождение в определенных структурах СС.
Таким образом, с точки зрения трибунала служившие в Waffen SS считаются members of SS.
- Офтоп - Мовчун 29.09.2006 20:50:51 (81, 324 b)
- Re: Офтоп - doctor64 02.10.2006 15:09:42 (43, 1423 b)
- Re: Офтоп - Bronevik 02.10.2006 15:49:41 (36, 1258 b)
- вот именно - Волк 28.09.2006 20:37:15 (269, 516 b)
